Roy, Aldridge put at ease...

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by MrSelfDestruct, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Well said, thank you!

    I love Roy and Blake is a solid enough guy, but this team is never going to get past the second round when all it does is iso Roy on the high pick and roll and only he handles the ball. Roy has shown little ability to feed Oden the ball to date and even when he finds our only big with an offensive game (LMA) it's for a pick and pop where LaMarcus takes an 15 to 18 foot shot.

    I'm not saying we should ask Roy to completely alter his game, but he has to get better at the catch and shoot and continue to round out his game if this team is going to take the next step, relying on Blake like a security blanket because he plays the one like an undersized two guard just isn't going to cut it when this team can't get their number one pick center going -- who has shown that he put in a considerable amount of work on his offensive game over the summer.

    Miller makes Oden better, he should have the ability to make Roy better by getting him easier shots and taking some of the burden off of him to be the team's lone playmaker ... everyone on this team just needs to fucking shut up and play.
     
  2. mgb

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    I've never made anything up posting on any board I've ever been on. I may be mistaken about this, but I'm not making it up. I thought it was in a article, I'm hoping it was, it might have been something someone else posted, but I know I read it somewhere. I will do a search and try to find it. But it's BS you accusing me of making stuff up which sounds like I do it often even if I did make this up which I didn't.
     
  3. PapaG

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    You didn't make it up. It was posted in one of these Miller threads. I'd search for it, but I know you are correct, so I won't. :cheers:
     
  4. hasoos

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    Dude WTF were you watching? 2/3 of the team scoring was focused on 3 guys. Jordan, Pippen and Kukoch. Those 3 put down 80 points a game, and the defense they played held their opponents to a little over 80 points a game. That meant the bench only had to put up about 10 points and they won.
     
  5. MrSelfDestruct

    MrSelfDestruct Louie, Louie, Louie

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    1. Kukoc wasn't on the team when Phil Jackson initially took over, which is what Minstrel said Jordan had to adjust to.

    2. Even in their record breaking year, they held their opponents to 92 PPG and Jordan, Pippen and Kukoc averaged about 63 PPG (105 for the team). I think you are underestimating the role players of those teams. Sure those three players were the only ones to average double-digit scoring, but they were also 2 of the only 3 players to average more than 30 MPG (Kukoc averaged 26 and Rodman 32). Hell, if you look at per 36 numbers, damn near the entire team averaged double figures, which tells me the ENTIRE team was effective when they were playing.
     
  6. LittleAlex

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    I belive Minstrel is talking about the Bulls prior to Jackson.

    During that time I remember Jordan really dominating the ball.

    After Jackson he did distribute more which really meant he actually passed the ball on occation.
     
  7. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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  8. Tortimer

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    I didn't mean to imply you make stuff and I have never seen anything but the truth from you on this or the old Blazer forum. You were just posting all over this board yesterday that Nate told Miller at the dinner meeting that he wouldn't start but would come off the bench. I have never seen anyhting else about this except what you keep saying. Miller himself said he wouldn't have signed if Nate would have told him that. So, I would like to see a link to where ever you saw this. It seems like a lot of people on this forum are trying to make Miller out the bad guy here and I just don't think it is right when you look at the truth/facts.
     
  9. Tortimer

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    Ok go ahead and you find the link about where Nate told Miller at the dinner meeting that he would come off the bench and wouldn't start. There might be someone else saying that on this forum but there is no truth to that from anything that I have heard or read.
     
  10. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/10/blazers_insider_mcmillan_faces.html
     
  11. anonymous gambler

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    Personally, I think it's misplaced to worry too much about the bench unit- there are 48 minutes in a game, starters will play about 36 minutes- so the bench play counts for about 25% of the game. Aldridge/Roy/Oden should be fairly noncontroversial as starters.

    In assessing Miller/Blake or Webster/Batum- we should really be asking, who do we want on the floor for 30 plus minutes. I prefer Miller over Blake, but if Blake is just a nominal starter with 15 to 20 minutes like Batum was, then it's not a huge issue to me.
     
  12. Tortimer

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    I have to apologize to MGB. Now I do have to wonder about Miller then. Miller has said Nate never said that at the dinner meeting. It just doesn't make sense to me that Nate would say that when your trying to get someone to sign or that Miller would sign here knowing that but maybe it is true. It just doesn't sound right to me. If it is I think we need to do something about Miller but not sure what. I would be all for just trading him or bringing him off the bench like many people want even though he is way better then Blake IMO.
     
  13. PapaG

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    As I said, I wasn't going to search for it because I knew that mgb was correct. :dunno:
     
  14. Tortimer

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    I'm sorry you were right. :cheers:
     
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    No need to be sorry, tortimer. :cheers:
     
  16. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    Thank you. I couldn't believe no one else remembered this. I might of incorrectly assume it was from a article, but that's the worse I did.
     
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    I'm waiting. :)
     
  19. Tortimer

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    I'm sorry and you were right. I will never question you again and please accept my apology.:wub:
     
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    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    Hahah, apology accepted. :cheers:
     

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