Sounds like Webster is gonna start.... and some thoughts

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  1. MIXUM

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    Which is 100% the right choice. Lets face it... batums offensive game isnt even close to websters. Finally, we have a SF who can score over 10 points. Schonz and Rice both said in so many words martell would start. I said this in September. While the batum lovers tried to make their cases. Really guys... its not close. Sorry.

    - Broy has become a concern in this pre season. Im sure he will get it going but hes giving off a weird vibe. You can almost feel it through the radio which is alarming.

    - Rudy... euro league wore him out. Hope it doesnt linger cause hes not right.

    - Oden seems to be ready for a huge season.

    - Outlaw needs to be traded ASAP. I mean listening to teh game last night... you could picture exactly what he was doing when the suns made their run. Turnover, bad shot, turnover, clank... and deer in headlights look. We really are better off with howard at backup PF. I just cant take outlaw anymore.

    - LA... its funny how everyone thought he would be the problem in pre season with no contract but amazingly hes been 100 times better then roy who has his deal. LA looks ready to go.

    - Miller has won the starting role. Sounds like hes tuned up but does he fit with roy is the question. I mean LA, Oden, and webster seem to play well with him. The problem is... our best player doesnt so far. Big issue but maybe time will change that.

    - Blake/Pryz are grouped together because neither has done much and both are likely pissed they lost their starting jobs already. Seems like they were going through the motions last night. Just hope they dont carry this over into the season but im getting the vibe they arent pleased.



    In closing, this team is not looking good in PRE SEASON but you hope they turn it on soon to avoid getting off to a slow start which will lead to drama in the locker room. Maybe the Blazers are the Tenn Titans of the NBA. A team everyone was picking to go deep in the playoffs with lots of expectations but fell on their face as soon as the season started. I hope not cause the titans aren't making the playoffs which is shocking considering their talent! Hmmm that sounds familiar! It is pre season so like i said... lets hope they can figure it out.
     
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    Where does it sound like Webster is going to start? I'm not disputing you, but I haven't read anything, and I live in Houston, so I haven't heard anything on the radio either. Schonz and Rice have as much say in who starts as you and I.


    Also, I'm not sure the starting unit needs scoring, and Batum is a much better defender.
     
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    A mostly positive post by MIXUM? END TIMES ARE HERE!!!!
     
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    they both seemed pretty sure webster would start in broadcast.
     
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    Great. With Miller jacking up shot after shot this preseason, and with Webster needing shots to be effective, we're looking at some serious problems on offense. Plus, Miller is at best Blake's equal on perimeter defense, and Webster is a downgrade from Batum.

    It could be a very interesting season.
     
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    I agree. I would love to bring in a guy with more interior scoring, defense and rebounding. Nothing too special, but just enough to help Pryzbilla anchor the second unit defensively. I would love to get my hands on Brandan Bass or Foster. I think we have way too much outside scorers that just don't rebound well. Our second unit needs more rebounding and interior muscle IMO.
     
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    I completely disagree with that statement. In fact, Webster's rebounding alone is so much better than Batum. And as for the perimeter defense between Blake and Miller is almost laughable in comparison. Give this pie some time to cook. Remember that this is only Miller's 4th game as a Blazer. Let's make our assessment a little further on in the season.
     
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    Bass or Foster alongside Joel would be scary on offense. Might as well just have a 3 man rotation down low, and play Greg and Joel together.
     
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    We don't sub 5 players all the time, just FYI. I expect Nate to try and keep at least 2 starters on the floor the entire game.
     
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    or Turiaf or Marc Gasol (w/weight loss)

    it's just clear that Outlaw is a huge detriment on defense and rebounding while in (hurting the C he plays with) and offensive flow, and about half the time he makes up for it while being 'on' with his shot. Letting him go would help out everybody on the team while 'on' the court.

    Outlaw/Bayless for Ronny Turiaf? (they could move Jack easier after that maybe with their 3 filled)
     
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    I understand we don't sub 5 people at once. I didn't say we do. You said you wanted someone like Bass or Foster alongside Toel, to help anchor the second unit. That our second unit needed help with rebounding and toughness alongside Joel. Which is what i was replying to. I don't think either of those two alongside Joel is going to work. I think someone like McDyess or Joe Smith would have been great alongside Joel.
     
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    Webster is a downgrade....on defense. Nic is going to be a great player in this league. Potential wise I have no problem saying he will be better than Webster, but right now. Nic is a complimentary player on offense and a stopper on defense. A way more athletic Bruce Bowen minus the three point shooting and dirty play. We have all seen what Martell can do when his shot is falling and Nic hasn't shown any sort of consistency on offense. I'm not saying Martell has been consistent either but much more so than Nic. I can see them getting pretty even playing time during the regular season. They both work in the starting lineup or coming off the bench.
     
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    Outlaw and Bayless for f*ckin Ronny Turiaf??? No thank you.
     
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    Rebounding isn't defense. :dunno:
     
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    I disagree completely. Web's defense has improved by leaps and bounds, and had even before the injury. He was super active last night, WAY WAY better than Trout.
     
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    We need scoring from the bench which is where Martell should be coming from there aren't enough shots for Martell on the starting unit.
     
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    What I meant is bench player's roles. It's obvious we don't bring in Pryzbilla to score. He is a defender and rebounder. I think we could use some other players at other positions that can do the same thing. I am trying to explain that, as much as scoring is a necessity, defense is or maybe even more of an importance off the bench.

    It's obvious we have Miller, Roy, Aldridge, Rudy and Oden all capable of handle most the scoring load. We need role players able to come in handling the defensive roles.
     
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    I'm not comparing him to Outlaw. I'm comparing him to Batum.
     
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    I was wondering if they are making these claims from play two years ago, cause during these "pre-season" games, he's been doing very well.
     
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    Is it just me or does it seem like people are reading way too much into box scores and the win loss columns? The fact is we're making an awful lot of assumptions about lineups, player combinations and effectiveness at the offensive end of the court when the only real team trends you can point to are a propensity for missing foul shots, excessive turnovers, high FG% allowed, and giving up a lot of fast break points.
     

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