Sounds like Webster is gonna start.... and some thoughts

you're being very silly. Both have had plenty of chances to establish what sort of shooter they are. Deal with being wrong.

Just last offseason a regular topic brought up by Webster supporters (prior to his injury) was how Outlaw couldn't shoot a high percentage from deep like he'd done the previous season with fewer shots. The same exact BS argument that you're throwing out now was thrown out then... "Big difference" they claimed. Travis launched about three 3's a game and made 38%... if anything, more opportunities lets guys get into a groove.

Oh, and according to many reports on Nic, he's been working on his 3 ball all summer.

STOMP

 

nics threes look great this pre season. that work really payed off.

 

Not to ruin your rant but I can think of maybe 2 or 3 people that think this.

 

you're ridiculous... we both know it. Why should I play your games when you bury your head in the sand regarding facts?

STOMP

 

im backing up webster lol... you are bailing on batum pal

 

good grief... your reading comprehension sucks

okay, bye-bye for a while

STOMP

 

Look, I like Martel and all, I think he's one of the best players we have coming of the bench, but I think he should in fact come of the bench. He's a do-it-all kind of player on offense which is very much my style of player (like Batum is on defense, BTW). But... he's a good shooter, not as good Rudy. He's a good passer, not as good as Rudy. He could be better than Rudy in going to the hoop but if that's his forte - why put him with Roy and Andre and probably Greg? I see a lot of similarities between Rudy and 'Tell and I think our rotation at SG should be Rudy, then 'Tell, with Bayless getting spot-minutes.

I hate repeating myself but this is the lineup I envision:
Miller/Blake
Rudy/Tell/Bayless
Roy/Outlaw/Batum(also getting minutes at #4 in a small lineup)
LMA/Batum/Twin towers
The Centers

 

We are talking about Batum vs. Webster right? When did Outlaw come into this debate? I personally think Outlaw is a great Outside shooter, just terrible on D and rebounding.

 

Wait a minute. 37% from 3 is bad? Oh my bad.... LOL

 

yep and stomp ran away

webster or batum


webster and miller

or

blake and batum



thats the way i see it

 

I don't get it. Why did he bring up Outlaw on the debate between Webster vs. Batum. Outlaw is the back up PF, not 3. Also, no one said Webster is a better shooter than Outlaw. Regardless, even Stomp posted Webster and Batum both shoot 37% from tre and Webster has taken way more shots. I will even give Stomp the benefit that Batum took far less shots. His argument is still invalid. They shot the same percentage.

 

I'd love to see Martell in the starting lineup and I think he's looked pretty good so far after missing an entire year, but in terms of 'fit', that second unit of Blake/Rudy/Nicolas/Outlaw/Joel did not look good together last night. There just wasn't enough offense on the floor.
I'd still put Batum as the starter and Andre at PG. And let Rudy be able to work with Martell, I want to see those two together again. It's still a work in progress though and Nate will figure it out.

 

Roy

 

I second that. Or maybe Oden down low.

 

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I guess I don't believe we will see big minutes with all 5 on the floor. I suspect for the majority of the minutes, you will have a few tweaks here and there. At least keep a couple starters in with that group during most the game.

 

Hey, if you don't think the Webster needs more shots than Batum, that Miller takes more shots than Blake, and that Oden clearly deserves more touches this year (and certainly more than Przy got as the starter), that's not my problem.

My point is that going to a more offensive starting unit is going to complicate things. If Miller is going to be second on the team in shots, why not move him to the second unit to improve it offensively?

 

Just an observation, but don't you think they are trying to work Miller in with the system? I doubt you see Miller ever averaging more shot attempts than Roy, Aldridge or even Oden during the regular season. I believe, and this is only my opinion, is Nate is letting Miller do whatever he likes, to feel him out. I don't think Nate even knows 100% everything Miller can do for them.

 

That still doesn't change the complications of adding 3 players (Oden, Webster, Miller) would will (and should) demand more shots than the people they are replacing.

I dunno. I'm beginning to wonder if changing 60% of the starting line-up from a 54-win team is the best idea.

 

No you have a good point there. But just remember what happened from 1998-99, then 1999-2000. That worked. But one of the factors could be they were all veterans. Seems that could be much easier to work itself out.