Is Howard a better back-up than Outlaw?

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  1. magnifier661

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    Personally, his veteran leadership is needed on the court. I feel way more comfortable bringing in someone that has been playing for a while, than Outlaw, IMO. Who knows. I don't even know if Howard has that much gas in him to put up 10 minutes a game at PF.
     
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    Oops, this may be a overlap from another thread. Sorry for a double thread on basically the same topic. Wrote this before I read the entire Outlaw thread.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    With Aldridge playing about 35-38 minutes a night.. we might not need a backup PF to put up more than 10 minutes a night. And Oden will be getting more minutes this year as well.
     
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    Yes. I think he is. He is a legit four. Travis has no business being there unless its small lineup versus small lineup.
     
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    I was a little curious of that "Twin Tower" line-up Nate used last season. I kinda liked it, especially if you have a nice lead and you want to shut a team's "points in the paint" down.
     
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    I really liked what I saw from Howard last night. Outlaw's big contribution at PF is shooting jump shots. If we have others to do that (Rudy, Martell), then yes I'd much rather have Howard backing up LaMarcus. I think he was a great pickup. Sure his athleticism is way down from his younger days, but he's very smart and very capable. He sees the floor, makes the right play, makes the right pass, and brings veteran savvy and leadership. I have a feeling he's going to help Greg a lot.
     
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    Yes. It's not even close. Better defender, better passer, doesn't stall the offense.
     
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    it depends...

    if we wanna win... yes

    if we wanna lose... no
     
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    going into this past summer... i wanted 3 players gone to improve this team

    sergio...check.

    frye...check.

    outlaw...sadly still lost
     
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    In a word, yes.
     
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    Yep what MM said. Plus Howard has a basketball IQ. You can see he is doing Oden a hell of a lot of good while he is out there. I have already seen plenty of times this pre season where he got Oden to repost and got him the ball deep for an easy bucket.
     
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    I agree. I really liked what I saw from Juwan too. He is the perfect player that we needed. We really, really need to move Outlaw.
     
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    Travis isn't a veteran yet?

    J/K, I agree that JH is a better backup PF than Travis. Travis gets thrown around like a rag doll when he tries to defend PF's on the low block.
     
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    It took Travis 5 seasons to get to the below average level most players make in this league by their 2nd or 3rd year. By applying dog year math rules, that means he has to be in the league 11 years before he is a veteran. :tsktsk:
     
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    Well I look at it this way. Regardless if Miller starts or comes off the bench, we still have capable scoring in Fernandez, Webster and Blake (If Miller is starting). Also, I doubt Nate doesn't have at least 1 Starter on the floor the entire game.

    I just think having Outlaw in ruins our offensive flow and defensive ability. I don't see how Outlaw would accept not being on the floor in the 4th Quarter as well. It was kinda his "staple" the previous 2 seasons.
     
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    Why doesn't anyone ask whether Howard (or any cheap former starter) is almost as effective as the overpaid Aldridge? Pritchard's bake philosophy has filled the team with perpetual infants whose only coach on their resumes is McMillan. Having been coached by several NBA coaches makes a player so much more versatile.
     
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    Yeah, right...
     
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    I would rather use Howard at the 4, then Travis. I think Travis could be used to consolidate some positions for us.

    I like Travis, but I just think we have too many players like him w/more upside.
     
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    Since KP hates power forwards, I doubt that Howard is really a power-forward at all, otherwise KP would not sign him. He is probably just a really tall point-guard, as shown by his ability to feed the beast (I mean, the post). As we know - KP "inherited" Outlaw - so his qualifications as a PF are clearly superior.

    There, asked, answered, and tied a pretty ribbon around it.
     
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