5/18, 4 Assists from the "PG" Miller in 38 Minutes

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    I didn't expect support from you, but it's nice to see objectivity.

    From this we can obviously agree Blake should start since he's less TO prone.

    Sergio should be traded for so he can come off the bench since he's more likely to assist other players scoring.

    And Old Man Miller isn't the best at anything so he should probably retire at this point.

    BTW, your "net gain" is a mythical figure as TO's and Ast's aren't comparable points-wise.

    An assist is always worth a minimum of 2 points, often 3 points and once in awhile 4 points.

    A TO results in the opponent scoring only about 44% of the time.
     
  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    No, the prediction is that he will be out of the league as soon as his current cheap rookie contract expires. We had to pay Sacramento to eat the last year of his contract. That was the only way the worst team in the league would take him off our hands.

    Talk about incorrect predictions...

    So, how is Sergio "thriving" in Westphal's system now that he has a "real coach who understands team basketball"?

    How many DNP-CDs has he racked up in a row now? Good lord, he can't get off the bench in the preaseon for the worst team in the league. Sounds an awful lot like a guy whose days are numbered to me.

    BNM
     
  3. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Not your expectations maybe. :dunno:
     
  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He was traded - to the worst team in the league. Where he is riding the bench assiting other players with towels and water bottles. He has finally found his true calling.

    Leave it to a great coach who understands the team game to finally put Sergio in a position where he can reach his full potential.

    BNM
     
  5. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    :crazy:

    Too bad you were lying yesterday when you told the board you had PapaG and I on ignore.

    This debate is obviously too much for your little brain and I'm afraid you're slipping into the dark world of insanity.

    Don't want you to end up like this:

    [video=youtube;3zgeQmzV9kk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zgeQmzV9kk[/video]
     
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  6. The Sebastian Express

    The Sebastian Express Snarflepumpkin

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    Does it take a lot of energy to keep up this gimmick on a day by day basis, Maris?
     
  7. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    :dunno: Ask Boob.
     
  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I never said any such thing. As usual, you jumped to conclusions. I never mentioned anyone by name. I said "two trolls". Why do you automatically assume you and PapaG are trolls? If I was PapaG, I'd be offended.

    Ah yes, the Maris ad hominem personal attack. The symbolic raising the the white flag and the admission that you simply can't win the debate based on facts. So, you resort to personal attacks on those who have proven you wrong (yet again).

    Good thread. You demostrated all your standard posting techniques. Avoiding answering a a simple direct question, changing the subject, a complete misunderstanding of basic statistics, inventing "facts", making EVERY thread about Sergio, and finally concluing with the traditional ad hominem personal attack.

    Classic Maris. It's like you work from a script. So predictable.

    BNM
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    To ensure I'm interpreting this statement correctly, are you suggesting here that a single assist is a greater net positive than a single turnover is a net negative?
     
  10. MARIS61

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    Just for the record, Mook, Boob, and The Sebastian Express brought Sergio into this thread, not me. This has become an annoying baiting tactic by these 3, NateBishop, Minstrel, Andulusion and several others.

    There were others, but the more intelligent ones have tired of it already.

    It's a broken record. Every time I try to give my opinions about our current roster, I'm called a troll and posters change the subject by attacking a Kings player. Very childish.

    The same people treat PapaG the same way. He has valid observations and concerns about the team's sudden change in direction and he's attacked rather than debated, and called a troll.

    Had I done what they have done I'd have been banned by now.

    Get over it guys, he's gone and you'll have to address our current roster if you want to be taken seriously.

    I realize it's hard to defend Old Man Miller on his own merits but give it a try, will you?
     
  11. MARIS61

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    Now ... Deleted

    Have some stones and don't run away from your statements. Only trolls do what you're doing.

    It is clear you were referring to us and nobody else. If you want to keep playing this infantile game, simply name the posters you referring to if they are not PapaG and me.

    If you are now afraid to back it up you should just run off to Olive. You'll fit right in there, troll.
     
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  12. MARIS61

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    How very astute of you.:clap:

    An assist cannot be undone.

    A turnover can be, and often is, undone.
     
  13. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    What the fuck is going on here? lol.
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

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    If your value analysis were correct, then wouldn't an a/to ratio over 1.0 be a net positive to a team? If a player were contributing (say) 6 assists and 5 turnovers on a nightly basis, that would be a good thing?
     
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    Because you want me to have to read MARIS61's completely useless posts even though I put him on ignore.

    It's the only reason I can think of to feed that troll.
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Wow! And the personal attacks escalate.

    How about you address what I wrote rather than who wrote it? If you can't debate the issue based on the merits of your position, without resorting to attacking those with an opposing opinion, maybe it's time for you to bow out of the discussion.

    BNM
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Since he's still in his rookie contract, I think I'm well within the timeframe that I've been posting. There is a very good chance your favorite player will be back in Fortress Europa next year. There's also a chance that some team will give him a shot next season on a veteran minimum. That will be his last chance though.

    PS - ROFL at this:

     
  18. MARIS61

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    It's certainly better than 4 assists with 5-18 shooting (effectively 10 turnovers).
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Better call David Stern and tell him that missed FG's will now be counted as turnovers as well.
     
  20. MARIS61

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    This message is hidden because Boob-No-More is on your very exclusive ignore list.

    Congrats Boob! By dodging questions, distorting other's posts, mounting personal attacks, and more importantly doing so without displaying any wit or amusing anecdotes, you've finally distinguished yourself as not worth my time and are the sole poster whom I will ignore this entire season.

    Please return the favor. :cheers:
     

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