Blazers vs Suns game thread with *link*

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  1. KingSpeed

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    Those are very valid points. I think we have to go with what works for Roy though. Roy will get us to the promised land. Trust me.
     
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    Recently, we've seen Bayless, Rudy, and Webster playing off of Miller, and the MO seems to be that Miller is actually Roy's equivalent in the second unit, while a guy like Webster or Rudy is Blake's equivalent. This is purely from a play-style perspective.

    I'm hopeful that Miller will find his place on the team, and will perform solidly for us by January.
     
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    So now it's Top 8. Which of the other 7 have never won a playoff series?
     
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    How did that work out in the playoffs again? Oh right, we were upset by a team with it's 2nd best player on the bench in a suit the entire series.

    What we need is a PG who can create for himself and others to take pressure off of Roy and Aldridge, you can't get very far if the other teams don't have to sweat your PG and you don't have the weapons to make them pay for focusing to hard on your #1 guy.
     
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    People forget how much trouble the Blazers had scoring on the rockets in the playoffs. They're a good defensive team so give them credit, but it took super human performances from Roy to win a couple games.
     
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    Mutumbo's a legend, but really now... :devilwink:

    (imho, Houston's always been better without McGrady than with him - the offense has more focus when he's not around)

    Miller's greatest use will be situational; he's available to us as a weapon. If he's on the bench for most of the season, that's fine. But at least this year, pretty much regardless of where Andre is, we have a better PG combo than Blake/Sergio was last year. I feel good about the pairing.
     
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    How has Miller's approach worked out in the playoffs?
     
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    I'm happy to see that the lineups our coach wants seem to be working out better; it was a relief to wake up and see the box scores.

    As others have pointed out, Blake is not a better player then Miller but he is probably a better fit with the first unit. I think Miller is going to be a great addition to the team once he gets some consistent playing time with the guys on the 2nd unit. I think he will also get more time with the first unit and learn to play well with them also.
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: B ROY??

    He's so selfish.
     
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    Nice strawman, but I'm not arguing about Miller's past playoff performances (although while we're at it he's performed far better than Blake has in the postseason). What I'm saying is that for this team, we need more than what Blake gives us on offense in the postseason. The Rockets keyed on Roy and everyone else shit the bed because no one else can consistently create shots with the dribble.

    KS said Parker wouldn't fit this squad, and I couldn't disagree more. Tony Parker would be the perfect backcourt mate with Roy. What team could stop both Roy and Parker from shredding them? You can only reliably take the ball out of one of their hands at any given time, and doing so will expose your defense to being absolutely abused by the other.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    How has Brandon's?

    Not to say Brandon is a bad player (of course), but circumstances and surrounding cast can have as much (or more) to do with post-season success as individual performances.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Re: B ROY??

    :blahblah:
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

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    Brandon's career playoff record is 2-4; 1 appearance, too small of a sample size to draw any conclusions.

    Miller's career playoff record is 7-20. 5 appearances, easily a large enough sample size to draw conclusions.

    Any more silly questions?
     
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    Why do you even bother arguing with him? It's the same weak ass comebacks every time.

    1) Miller has never won in the playoffs.

    2) Miller has taken a bunch of shots in the PRESEASON so he must be a ballhog.

    3) Miller and Roy haven't spoken to each other at all off the court.

    4) Miller is anti-social.

    We could just put together a PapaG comeback generator and we would probably get virtually the same responses every time.
     
  16. Ed O

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    There's no way that 27 games is enough to draw conclusions. That's barely more than a quarter of a single regular season's worth of games.

    Ed O.
     
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    Gotta agree with Ed O. here. I play a lot of poker, and I hesitate to draw conclusions from a sample size less than 100,000 hands played. Obviously, NBA basketball is a VERY different animal, but one season should be a MINIMUM. 82 games minimum. Not even taking other variables into account like: team members and their varying abilities to do different things at different levels of competence, amount of games played with said teammates, teams played most frequently, conference played in, etc...

    Then taking into consideration that most arguments/threads here recently are based on ONE PREASEASON game??!! Many of you, whether or not I agree with you, make intelligent arguments. But when you fail to recognize the importance of sample size, it all means nothing. But keep jerkin your knees!!!:cheers:
     
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    I hate being that guy that posts twice in a row. But if you want to use a sample size of one game, you could find a way to argue that Charles Smith is better than Michael Jordan, or that Shelden Williams is better than Karl Malone. Or, maybe, that Sergio Rodriguez is in the same league as John Stockton.
     
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    Greg Oden needs more than 7 shots period. I know it was only 23 minutes, but he has to have 10+ every game.
     
  20. blazerboy30

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    Kingspeed, you need to chillout man, seriously.

    You have been bitching and moaning for a long time how this team needs a legit 3rd option to help take some pressure off of Roy. Miller can do that both by handling the ball,creating for others AND by scoring on his own.

    Now you are bitching and moaning that we should just keep what we had last season with not enough help for Roy and no legit 3rd scoring option.

    Get a grip. Learn the game. Then post.
     

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