Iverson, Webber show up late on fan appreciation night

Iverson and Webber showed up at the locker room at around tipoff time last night against the Nets. They both were not playing in the game because of injuries but they didn't even bother to sit on the bench on fan appreciation night at their last home game. I was not at all suprised to hear this, as good as Iverson is, he is not a leader I don't care what anyone says, he's a little punk when it comes to respecting anything. What do you guys think of all of this?

 

Both should be traded. This coming from a Sixers fan.That was very ignorant for both of them to do. The fans support them every night and they do that?

 

You can't trade Chris Webber.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Apr 19 2006, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Both should be traded. This coming from a Sixers fan.That was very ignorant for both of them to do. The fans support them every night and they do that?</div>Trade AI?

 

I stayed up to 3 am hoping to watch some Ai ( I don't like him a lot but hes good to watch) then I had to get up for work at8am the next morning, i now despise, Ai and Cris Webber

 

The Sixers missed the playoffs. They snuck in last season. They are not winning with Webber or Iverson on the roster.Sixer fans always seem to blame everyone but Iverson. Its either the coaches fault of his supporting cast's fault.I used to hear every day at my school "Iverson needs a second option" Iverson has had plenty of second options and NONE of them have worked out. Is it a coincidence or is Iverson the problem?Over the years he has had Tim Thomas,Chris Webber,Keith Van Horn,Larry Hughes,Glenn Robinson,Derrick Coleman ,All those guys are viable second options. However with Iverson it didnt seem to work.He also had his share of solid role players as well:Aaron McKieGeorge LynchRaja BellKenny ThomasBruce BowenSpeedy ClaxtonEric SnowMatt HarpringJumaine JonesTyrone HillTheo RatliffMatt GeigerBrian SkinnerRodney RogersDikembe MutomboI know I am forgetting some but this is off the top of my head and I am too lazy to go look it up.Are you guys sure its not Iverson you should be blaming?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I stayed up to 3 am hoping to watch some Ai ( I don't like him a lot but hes good to watch) then I had to get up for work at8am the next morning, i now despise, Ai and Cris Webber</div>Exactly Young Cuz, sixers fans pay their hard earned money to watch these guys night after night and on the one night where they are supposed to just show up on time and be visible on the floor they come late and don't even have the respect to just sit on the bench. That is a pathetic display

 

This really didn't surprise me at all, and I think the whole thing was blown way out of proportion by Billy King. He is so worried about saving his job that he's taking it all out on Iverson and Webber. I'm not saying what they did was right, but King blew it WAY out of proportion.The two weren't scheduled to play anyway due to "injuries."Also, Iverson never sits on the bench when he's injured. He is usually up in one of the suites. And when that was brought to King's attention, he was like "Oh, I didn't know that, let me check."As for the trading AI and Webber part. AI shouldn't go unless we can get a solid deal for him. Webber should go first, but he is harder to move.King is an incompetent GM who really doesn't know what he's doing. We saw that Iverson is at his best with scrappy, defensive-minded role-players around him, but King goes away from that blue-print and trys to build an offensive-minded team, without paying any regards to defense.The moves King has made clearly show he is incapable of running a franchise, and if Ed Snider would stop jacking off to the Flyers for 1 minute, he would see that and replace his butt-buddy Billy King.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Apr 19 2006, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Sixers missed the playoffs. They snuck in last season. They are not winning with Webber or Iverson on the roster.Sixer fans always seem to blame everyone but Iverson. Its either the coaches fault of his supporting cast's fault.I used to hear every day at my school "Iverson needs a second option" Iverson has had plenty of second options and NONE of them have worked out. Is it a coincidence or is Iverson the problem?Over the years he has had Tim Thomas,Chris Webber,Keith Van Horn,Larry Hughes,Glenn Robinson,Derrick Coleman ,All those guys are viable second options. However with Iverson it didnt seem to work.He also had his share of solid role players as well:Aaron McKieGeorge LynchRaja BellKenny ThomasBruce BowenSpeedy ClaxtonEric SnowMatt HarpringJumaine JonesTyrone HillTheo RatliffMatt GeigerBrian SkinnerRodney RogersDikembe MutomboI know I am forgetting some but this is off the top of my head and I am too lazy to go look it up.Are you guys sure its not Iverson you should be blaming?</div> It's sad when you have been somewhere 10 years and thats the best group of players you can get.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Apr 19 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Over the years he has had Tim Thomas,Chris Webber,Keith Van Horn,Larry Hughes,Glenn Robinson,Derrick Coleman ,All those guys are viable second options. However with Iverson it didnt seem to work.</div>Hm, let's see...Tim Thomas and Larry Hughes were pretty much rookies when they played with Iverson, and Larry Brown traded them for guys who "fit his system." Is that Iverson's fault, nope.Keith Van Horn played soft, when he was brought in to be a outside-shooter and play in the post a little bit. Plus, his shot was inconsistent. And if you think KVH is a "viable second-option" you really need to re-think that. He is a decent third or fourth option at best.Coleman was how old?Iverson and Glenn Robinson didn't really play all that much together because of the injuries and what not, but when they did they played well. Then, Glenn Robinson started crying when Andre Iguodala outplayed him in training camp and won the starting job. Big Dog then pulled a Vince Carter to get out of Philly, and ended up winning an undeserved ring with the Spurs.The Webber and Iverson duo has worked out between the two. They are the highest scoring duo in the NBA. The Sixers problems this year was an inconsistent young core of role players, and their defensive woes. Plus, the only way we are going to be successful with Webber as the second-option is if he is willing to be a distributor from the high-post like he was in Sacramento. Here, he looks to shoot every time he touches the ball.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Also, Iverson never sits on the bench when he's injured. He is usually up in one of the suites</div>what????

 

Whenever he is injured and isn't going to play in the game, he doesn't sit on the bench. They have a suite for him where he sits with some of the front office personnel.Whether that is his choice or the team's choice is anybody's guess.

 

Way to break it down BigMo. AI has done all one player can do for a his frnachise exept win rings. He shows up late to just ONE game. He has showed he respects the fans, the organization, and the city. And then people start to critisze him for something as small as this.

 

I went to Philly yesterday for a 2-day trip with my grade, and I saw the game. It was a blowout at first, Nets had a double-digit lead. Then they started to not care anymore and thats when Iggy went crazy for 27 pts. Also had a left-handed alley-oop. It was a good game, but Iverson, Webber, Kidd, and Jefferson werent even there. The only 'star' there was Vince Carter, and he didnt really play alot either.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He has showed he respects the fans, the organization, and the city.</div>that's why he didn't show up on fan appreciation night, I think Ballaholic said it best when he said it's always somebody else's fault except AI's

 

He did show up... he was just late.The guy is late for the first time this season, and it gets blown out of proportion.And the front office, especially Billy King, has to take the majority of the blame for the lack of success since 2001. I never thought I'd say this, but Larry Brown is a much better GM than King even though he threw away draft picks like they were trash.

 

It was fan appreciation night, from what I heard on ESPN. Its just a disgrace to the organazation..I dont know what they were thinking, disrespecting there team like that

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The guy is late for the first time this season, and it gets blown out of proportion</div>hhahahahah bigMo if there was one night not to show up late it was last night...I don't think it's getting at all blown out of porportion, Sixers fans really need to think about where there team is going, AI isn't a good leader I don't know how you can possibly defend this guy after that display. Your better off getting rid of him.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Apr 19 2006, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hhahahahah bigMo if there was one night not to show up late it was last night...I don't think it's getting at all blown out of porportion, Sixers fans really need to think about where there team is going, AI isn't a good leader I don't know how you can possibly defend this guy after that display. Your better off getting rid of him.</div>Billy King is blowing it out of proportion. He is just aggravated because everything he said last offseason about the young guys stepping up, and his horrible moves are now being scrutinized more and more by the media, and (hopefully) he's on his way out.Sixers fans don't WANT to trade AI, but we will part with him if we have to and get a good deal.And I still don't see what the point is in trading him if Webber will still be around... it makes no sense to deal AI if we aren't dealing Webber.EDIT: And I don't even want to re-build if Billy Queen is the GM. The guy is retarded. He'll give CBA players max contracts.

 

Allen Iverson and Chris Webber apologized to the organization and to the fans:http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/2...son_Webber.html