Slings and arrows.... but would you?

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Roy for Paul?

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  1. andalusian

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    Magic was the most versatile PG ever. He played center sometimes, for crying out loud.

    The real question is - would you do it with Clyde and Isiah? Because CP3 is Isiah #2, not Magic.
     
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    And what if that question mark is Rudy? Rudy will get beat off the dribble by faster PGs just as often as he will get abused in the post by bigger SGs. So if you're already sacrificing a little bit on the defensive end....
     
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    The difficulty with that comparison for me is, I think Roy is, or at the very least will be, a better leader and true #1 option than Clyde was.
     
  4. Buzz Killington

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    Just wait until that franchise is going nowhere with dwindling attendance and less and less fan support.
     
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    Even if it were true that their owners would be willing to raffle off their once-per-generation point guard for financial reasons, the market wouldn't just be Portland. Nearly every team in the NBA would be interested, so a serious bidding war would ensue. That would drive the price up to more fair rates of returns. It doesn't matter if people know/think New Orleans has to deal...what matters is that they have to out-bid everyone else.

    In any case, I sincerely doubt the Hornets ever trade Paul. They'll get rid of everyone else first. They wouldn't have taken on Okafor's long, expensive contract if they were that desperate for money.
     
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    That remains to be seen. Right now Roy has been doing his work in a Blazers Uniform. You just don't trade your star players in their prime (or not even yet in the prime) when you are highly competative and eyeing the championship. Who does that kind of stuff?
     
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    Rudy can't handle the ball well enough to play point guard. And I think he'd at a greater defensive disadvantage at point guard than at shooting guard.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    When the playing you are getting back is better and younger? I think everyone does.
     
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    Why would New Orleans take a lesser player (yes, I feel Paul is a better player at this point) in Roy who is signed to a max extension?
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Well, you seem to know the future, so I can't argue with you I guess.
     
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    Name a time its happened. Team competing for a championship trades their franchise player for another one who is "younger and better" and it has worked out.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I'm not comparing their styles, simply that Paul is the best point guard of his generation and on a par with Magic Johnson.

    Paul is miles better than Thomas. Thomas is very overrated. His career-best PER was 22.2. Paul's first two seasons in the NBA were 22.0 and 22.1. His last two seasons were 28.3 and 30.

    I wouldn't trade Drexler for Thomas, because that would be a downgrade. Paul is an upgrade on Roy, as Magic Johnson would be on Clyde Drexler.
     
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    Thomas will have more rings than CP3 will. If Paul was Magic Johnson, do you think he'll win multiple rings?

    I say he wins zero and Roy wins a few.

    the hornets are not even really competative anymore with CP3 at the helm. Sure he's a good point and has a good offensive game....but Magic Johnson? come on. perhaps John Stockton is more accurate, no? he didn't have any rings either, was a pure point too.
     
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    If you give him Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Norm Nixon, etc? And coached by a young Pat Riley? Yes, I do.

    I know this is still a controversial claim, but teams win championships, not individuals.
     
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    Would you trade Drexler in his prime, during the Blazers run of the early 1990s for John Stockton?
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    It hasn't happened because no team is stupid enough to trade a BETTER superstar player for a WORSE one.
     
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    sure, it happens all the time when a team needs to shed salaries or blow a team up because of bad financial situations or dead fan support. Teams competing for the title and expected to compete, however, do not
     
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    *Sigh*

    Tell me how trading Paul for Roy sheds salaries.

    Tell me how the Hornets have no fan support.

    Tell me how the Hornets are trying to blow up their team.
     
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    I'm not saying that we need to trade Roy. It can get done with expiring contracts and young talent for a cheap owner trying to save money.

    The Hornets will have no fan support because they are in a depressed economy known as New Orleans. As the economy gets worse, no one is going to be able to afford tickets and they will not be a viable business in that city any more.

    They are a team on the decline....unless you can see them just magically coming back because of Okafor? What else? Peja? come on...be realistic...the team had their peak several years ago, they need major player movements combined with the city of New Orleans becoming booming again to survive. I give that franchise 5-7 years in that city max before they will need to pack up and move.
     
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    No way. More superstar swingmen lead their teams to championships than point guards.
     

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