Slings and arrows.... but would you?

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Roy for Paul?

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  2. No

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  1. WillG

    WillG Well-Known Member

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    Not so much he's lacking killer instinct, just that, with Roy, something is missing to push him into the next level of stardom.

    Paul IS a superstar and personally I think its his instinct and demeanor on the court that puts him there.
     
  2. RR7

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    I also like Roy more for never having intentionally punched another man in the balls on the court.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There has been a lot made out of Paul's unhappiness. I don't know necessarily that he is unavailable if the right price were presented.

    We went through this with Damon when he was with the Raptors. Obviously Paul's pedrigree is higher than Damon's was at the time, but the situation is similar.

    The Hornets could be competitive again if given the right pieces. If we were to trade them Roy, Blake, and Joel, that would put them in a much better position.

    Blake
    Roy
    West
    Okafor
    Joel

    is a better lineup, I think, than:

    Paul
    Mo-Peterson
    West
    Wright
    Okafor
     
  4. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I also think that having a 1st ballot HOF'er like Kobe and a super Flashy Wade, in front of him detracts from his super stardom.
     
  5. RR7

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    Exposure, more than anything. If ROy played in NY, he's talked about mroe than Paul, easily, and mentioned as a top 7 or so player WAY mreo often. Unfortunately, everyone's asleep when our games are going on, or getting over with. And I know LA is in the same time zone, but there's so many people down there, that doesn't count. Roy wasn't hyped in college, or his first season, which is the biggest hurdle for him.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't agree with this. The only reason why I consider Paul an upgrade is because he makes his teammates better. I think he would make Oden and Aldridge instant All-Stars, and because we have Rudy, I think we can afford to make the offer. This is not a knock on Roy in any way. I think he's an amazing player, and I think we could win a championship with Roy, but I think Paul is just simply a better player and we should make a run for him, if he's available.
     
  7. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    that too.
     
  8. MrSelfDestruct

    MrSelfDestruct Louie, Louie, Louie

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    Agreed.

    As someone stated the last time this discussion came up, Paul/LMA/Oden is Paul/West/Chandler on a MASSIVE dose of steroids.
     
  9. RR7

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    Now, if we want to talk about a superstar getting discouraged with his current situation, I think we shift our focus to a city in Ohio.
     
  10. WillG

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    True that.

    I love that Roy is down to earth and, from all reports, seems like an honourable man/person.

    On the court; some games he'll chip in and other times he'll explode. I guess once he becomes more of a consistent threat to dominate, then he'll make that transition to the next level. Superstars cannot be contained.
     
  11. WillG

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    We are in agreement. That is my view aswell.
     
  12. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    I haven't read any of the other responses yet:

    So the question is does a hypothetical trade idea make even the tiniest bit of sense for both teams?

    Make a shred of sense for Portland? Sure. They wouldn't do it, but you could make a case.

    Make a shred of sense for New Orleans? No. Not at all.

    If they are going to trade Chris Paul they will trade him for either a very hot young prospect locked in on a rookie deal and wanting to establish himself in the NBA;

    or an established good young player who is VERY unhappy in their current situation and looking to spread their wings and make their mark. (Think the Joe Johnson situation when he was with Phoenix).

    They will also be looking at some cap relief. The deal better be lowering their salary commitment. But, that is a side note to the core concept above.

    If a deal doesn't meet that criteria, Paul can whine all he wants, but the Hornets are better off hanging on to him until he is an expiring contract.

    Roy doesn't meet their criteria. So, now you are needing to work another team (or two) into the mix in order to get it done. Near impossible to pull off. And if you don't pull off the deal, you are left with one pissed off MAX salary star player. Not a smart game to play.
     
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    I would not do it, mainly because Roy has the mental tools that CP3 lacks. Chris Paul blows his top and is unable to bring calm to his team, and this is where the great players excel. Brandon Roy excels in this area, and his ability to rally the troops and bring stability is a star quality that CP3 does not have. I also don't think that you can learn it, either you have it or you don't.
     
  14. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Of course it matters. He wouldn't have been traded if he wanted to stay.
    He's was still a good player, but prime insinuates relatively young and peak of production. He was not at his prime.
    So? Michael Redd is the Bucks's franchise player. Just because he's a franchise player doesn't mean there's different levels of players. Chris Paul is a SUPERSTAR, top 5 player in the league. You don't trade those players.
     
  15. WillG

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    Winners hate to lose. I think this roster could use some fire.
    Maybe Roy is the ying to CP3s yang.

    If we could somehow bring CP3 without disturbing our core players???
     
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    If you could bring CP3 in while keeping Roy, YES.
     
  17. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Paul and Roy could make for the best backcourt.... ever?
     
  18. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Outlaw, Blake, Bayless and the Blazers girls for Chris Paul?
     
  19. VanillaGorilla

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    That would never be their lineup.. do you think West is a SF?
     
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    Fernandez, Aldridge, Blake for Paul!
     

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