Slings and arrows.... but would you?

Paul and Roy would coexist about as well as Miller and Roy exists together.

Bring in Paul. Roy would need to go.

 

As much as it would hurt . . .I wonder if something based on:
Fernandez, Aldridge, Bayless + picks/lower tier players would be worth a look.

 

Wow Bishop, your topic was a winner.

 

People offering Aldridge need to consider:

Do the Hornets want him with both West and Okafor?

If they want to shed salary, how would taking Aldridge's 5year/65 million dollar contract help?

 

That's fine. I'd rather have Paul dominating the ball and a mediocre Roy than Miller dominating the ball and a mediocre Roy.

 

I'm sorry...but are you both nuts?

Thomas was one of the most over-rated players of all times. Paul is already better than Thomas ever was, and will quite possibly keep getting better.

As for Roy being better than Clyde - that's like claiming Sabonis was better than Walton. Clyde may have had personality flaws...but on the court he was flat out great.

 

Wasn't the guy he punched Jarrett Jack? I would think most Blazer fans would canonize him for that.

 

What do you mean by mediocre Roy?

 

I think some of you underrate Isaiah. Or have forgotten how good he was. Isaiah is one of the best of all time. I think they are closer than some of you give credit for.

 

Less than he could be.

 

I see

 

Sorry, but I watched those Pistons' teams play too many times. During Thomas' "prime", they owned the refs the same way the Lakers currently do. The League *made* Thomas a star.

A typical sequence: Mahorn sets a "pick" for Isiah. This consists of him standing on the defenders foot, throwing a hip into him, and then finishing him off with an elbow to the temple. No whistle. Isiah misses the shot. The nearest defensive player, who is 5 yards away, gets whistled for fouling him. Isiah misses the free throw. Lane violation whistled on the defense. Etc, etc, ad nauseum.

 

lmao

The best comparison of Isiah that I have heard but he was obviously more selfish than Isiah was Allen Iverson. Built about the same way. The quickness, the speed was comparable. They both could shoot it and dominate.

 

I think you're overstating it. Hand-checking was allowed, but zone defenses weren't. Also, the "nasty and physical game" was ushered in largely by those Pistons teams...they were the anomaly at the time. Which means Thomas played against much less physical competition. The first half of the '90s was the era of the much more physical defense...the Pat Riley Knicks and the Seattle Supersonics continuing the "knock down slashers and put a forearm into every offensive player" mentality of the Pistons, which then became league-standard. Thomas played almost all of his prime prior to the very physical defenses on the '90s.

I don't think Thomas had it easier or tougher. He just wasn't as talented or productive.

 

If Paul keeps putting up seasons of 30+ PER, I think the argument could be made that he's near Jordan's level of production. Jordan was also an elite defensive player, which Paul isn't, so he wouldn't be as good as Jordan even then.

I think LeBron James and Chris Paul are the two best players of this era.

Not clearly surpassed, but I think they are comparable. PER is not nearly conclusive enough that you can be that fine with it...that Paul is a couple points of PER ahead so is clearly ahead of Magic. But he's so far ahead of Thomas that I feel comfortable saying that there's a clear disparity there.

If Paul has a full career at this level, I think he should go down as one of the best three point guards ever (with Magic and Oscar Robertson). The precise ordering of them would be difficult.