Week 9 thread.

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  1. rocketeer

    rocketeer Active Member

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    romo is absolutely not a big step down from ben or rivers. really he isn't even a step down at all from either of those guys.
     
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    If I want to win a game, in December, I'll take any one of those 2, because they have done it before. Romo has had documented problems in December and January. I saw first hand last year how bad Romo was in December in a late season game in Pittsburgh. I'd also have to think Mamba and Thrilla would agree with me, as well as Lost One.
     
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    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

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    brady/manning
    ben
    brees
    rivers
    mcnabb
    palmer
    eli
    ryan
    warner
    rodgers
    hasselbeck
    favre
    flacco
    schaub
    orton
    cassel
    cutler

    then romo
     
  4. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Sometimes you defend too many weird players rocketeer, it is hard to take you seriously. The Cowboys are clicking but I don't expect them to hoist that title at the end. Maybe with a couple more years of seasoning, they do have a nice core.



    The Mavericks suck and Dirk sucks. :)
     
  5. 44Thrilla

    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

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    no comment on the slash? I did it for you.
     
  6. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Thank You Thrilla.




    I go to you for my Celtics news by the way. :pimp:
     
  7. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Rivers > Romo. Don't come here with that shit.

    Rivers was potentially a healthy ACL away from the Super Bowl. They played a tough ass NE team and kept it close and interesting with a QB with a Blown knee and ACL. Rivers wins games in the playoffs more than Romo does. Rivers wins games in Decemeber when they matter most, more than Romo does.

    Until Romo wins in Dec. he is not an elite QB.
     
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    And holy shit, you gave Favre > Romo?
     
  9. rocketeer

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    like who?

    don't really care about the mavs.
     
  10. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    :yawn:

    You're a Texas fan, it is pretty obvious.
     
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    so because romo blew a hold in the playoffs a few years ago, lost a close game to the eventual champion giants, and then the whole cowboys teams didn't show up to play the eagles last year romo sucks?

    so the next two games when romo led the cowboys to a win in a must win game against the giants and then led the team to two tds in the final 4 minutes but the defense gave up back to back 75+ yard td runs don't count because romo was bad the game you went to? it's not like romo hasn't played well in some big situations and it's not like he's been the only one to blame when the cowboys have lost.
     
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    He's not an "elite" QB is the more accurate criticism. And that he has terrible production at the end of the year.

    That was against the Ravens I believe, where the TD runs occurred. And Romo sucked against them. That's not just on the "D", like you're trying to make it seem.

    Yes Romo blew the game against the Eagles, not Owens or whatever Scapegoat the Cowboys wanted to pick.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6624/splits;_ylt=AgmOlp9M9JXFcF4o9rqvo0P.uLYF?year=2008

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6624/splits;_ylt=AgmOlp9M9JXFcF4o9rqvo0P.uLYF?year=2007

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6624/splits;_ylt=AgmOlp9M9JXFcF4o9rqvo0P.uLYF?year=2006

    Fall back, man

    December 2008 4 games 67.9 QB rating

    December 2007 4 games 70.3 QB rating

    December 2006 5 games 77.1 QB rating

    64.7 rating against Giants in 07-08 playoffs, missed playoffs in 08-09 due to his 55.8 rating against the Eagles, blew the Seattle game on a two-yard kick for the win. When those are missed you still never see that fumbled play, the kicker usually gets blocked not a botched snap.

    Romo is the prototype player that has failed terribly, man up to that. His team has not "held" him back and he hasn't played respectably either. Romo might turn it around one day, but he has to fight for it better at the end.
     
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    He's behind the 2004 QB draft class, and other established QBs of course.
     
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    i don't think anyone pretends he's an elite qb, but he is a good one. i've said before that there were really only two elite qbs this season(though that total grew to 3 with brady proving himself healthy).

    the defense definitely cost them that game. romo was bad early, but kept the cowboys in the game late. with the score 19-10 romo led the cowboys on a td drive. first ravens play was a 77 yard td run by mcgahee. romo leads another cowboys td drive to get it back to 2 points. first ravens play again an 82 yard td run by leron mcclain. that's bad defense.

    i'm trying to figure out how a 44-6 loss is blamed on any single player. it was a total team effort to lose that bad. romo was definitely part of it.

    it was a field goal attempt that would have won the game, not an extra point to tie it.

    "the prototype player that has failed terribly"? you don't think that is overstating it? he's definitely had struggles in some important games and some important situations. but it's not like he's failed or played bad every time a game has been meaningful either. and like it or not, the guy has proven to be a top 10 qb the entire time he's been a starter.

    i guess everyone has to hate him because he's the cowboys qb, but why don't we be realistic about it? the guy is a good qb.
     
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    rockets, cowboys, and university of texas fan.
     
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    Oh yeah, a fumble as well in that Ravens game. 66.8 QB rating. Again, 15 games in December or the playoffs that he has been FAR FAR below the average QB level. Not even mediocre.

    What exactly are you trying to parse here? He was Godawful again, it all started with him. He kept the defense on the field longer, he threw a pick six IIRC, and fumbled a few times while holding on to the ball too long.

    And? Yeah from the Seattle 2 yard line, extra point distance. Lol good for him, it was a field goal worth three points, not worth just one point. They lost 21-20, even worse they could have won the game not gone into overtime then. Thanks for helping me. ;]

    What a horrific record so far, it really speaks for itself I don't have to say anything. Not commenting on anything about the future just as of now.

    Oh me? Nope I don't hate the Cowboys at all to be honest. I've barely ever talked about them before today.
     
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    that it's dumb to blame romo when the whole team is at fault.

    and you don't recall correctly. he had a fumble returned for a td, but that's after the score was already 27-3 in the 2nd half.

    simply correcting you that it was a field goal attempt.

    i haven't been commenting on the future either. just saying that romo is a top 10 qb now and has proven to be so over the past few seasons.

    not necessarily you, just in general. everyone loves to hate the cowboys.
     
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    He was mostly at fault. One gives up points in the battle for field position as well.

    What kind of loss did you expect with that performance?

    Yeah like I said you helped me out there, I appreciate it. He left a W on the field, not a possible Overtime. :cheers: I am glad I was given the chance to correct that point once again.

    "romo is absolutely not a big step down from ben or rivers. really he isn't even a step down at all from either of those guys. "

    Could you clarify this then? A little confusing, just want to make sure I understand your position.

    Not me at all. ;]
     
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    romo is not a big step down from those guys. i personally feel that he's on a similar level as them. there are 3 elite qbs in the league(manning, brady, brees). after that, you've got several guys on a similar level. romo is right there with them and is a top 10 qb.
     

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