No. Maybe a little stubborn and possibly narrow, but not exactly selfish ... especially based on the rest of the talk Quick supposedly had with him.
Really, Roy said "I (being so great)"? I find that difficult to believe. It doesn't sound like any sentence I've ever heard Brandon say. barfo
It's why it's in parenthesis. But those are great players. And he is comparing himself to them. But that's not near the point of the my post.
As much as I can respect "statistical numbers" that doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. Just because Kobe or Wade have higher % of usage, doesn't mean they didn't play off the ball during the game. They could very easily have the shot and not necessarily create it. So I disagree with that. Because I live in L.A. and during those years, I was force fed Laker's basketball. I saw how they player the triangle, and it wasn't with "Isolation by Kobe" unless you count the 4th quarter. In miami, they did the same thing. Shaq would dominate the first 3 quarters, then wade would take over the 4th. Of course, there were games that Kobe was the focal point, just like wade, but for the most part, this is what I see.
I'm just relaying the stats that appear to contradict a claim made on the board. If we want to share opinions, I'm fine with that as well.
You don't get that he is questioning why he has to do something? That he has to change who or what he is to make the team better? You didn't get that from that response?
This focus of yours on usage percentage is driving me nuts. Usage percentage and "playing off the ball" are not necessarily connected. If a catch-and-shoot player runs around on offense trying to get open, then shoots immediately upon receiving the ball, he will have a high usage rate without dominating the ball. Case in point--Richard Hamilton. 2001 28.1% 2002 28.6% 2003 31.3% 2004 25.7% 2005 25.1% 2006 27.4% 2007 25.9% 2008 24.5% 2009 27.0% 2010 27.9% He has a very high usage rate every year, but I don't think anyone would be myopic enough to claim that he dominates the ball. Now, I'm not saying that Roy needs to play exactly like Hamilton does, but there's no reason to think that he can't incorporate a little bit of Rip's game into his own in order to play more effectively with Miller but still get his touches.
The downfall in looking at usg% is, it measures how many possesions finished with a player shooting a FG or FT. It does nothing to show that that player created the shot for himself, or did not. A player can be a spot up shooter, and have a high usg% by getting he ball kicked out to him off of a double by someone creating opportunities. So a high usg% doesn't necessarily mean that a player wasn't playing off the ball much, or changed their game.
Sometimes, PapaG is looking through a different lens than many others. Nonetheless, it's his perspective and he's certainly entitled to it.
Uh, have you seen (too small dwarf?) our offense stall at key times when we go to the ol Roy ISO? We need to have flexibility so teams cannot concentrate on any one thing.
Are you saying that Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade have the same games as Rip Hamilton? The stats do tell the story here, because of the similarities in Bryant's, Wade's, and Roy's games. They handle the ball a lot. There is no denying this. None. Why in the world would anybody want to turn Brandon Roy into Rip Hamilton? He's not a catch-and-release shooter. Thank you for posting Hamilton's usage rates, but they have literally nothing to do with the usage rates of Roy, Wade, and Bryant.
