That's where actually watching the games comes into play. As I already pointed out, Rip Hamilton's usage rate is not the same as Roy's, Wade's, or Bryant's usage rate.
What you said is that Roy thinks that he has nothing to work on in his game. That's not the same thing as Roy wanting to be used in a certain manner.
I think there is another point to this which has been pretty much unsaid. The elephant in the room is why is Blake playing SG? Our SF has always been more or less a catch and shoot guy who spaces the floor. The SG position is the postion where there is creation of offense. There is a reason they call it shooting guard, that being so that the guy playing it can create offense. I agree with Roy. He should be playing SG, or PG so he can create. In the Blazers current offense, his talent is wasted at the SF position.
absolutely. When quoting somebody and adding words of your own -- usually done to add context -- you always put them in brackets. A set of parentheses around a statement usually indicates that the speaker paused in mid sentence to make a side point or add emphasis of their own.
But simply posting their usage rate does not prove that they did not change up their games, or play off the ball more.
What are you talking about? I can't reply to 5 different people at once. Did you post some sort of "Gotcha"?
It's the truest measure that we have, though. Where is your evidence that those guys played off-the-ball more with Shaq?
I prefer something like, "Why should I (being so great) [This crap is in parentheses because I'm making it up]....
That's why you watch the games, isn't it? Bryant and Wade are primary ball handlers. Rip Hamilton is not. If you don't understand this basic observation, why are you trying to argue with me?
It doesn't. Usage rate is just the number of possessions that pass through a player's hands that result in either free throw attempts, shot attempts, assists or turnovers. From Hollinger's formula
Yes, we are sharing opinions, because those numbers aren't telling if someone played off the ball or not.
That's because Roy pronounces "open parenthesis" as "think you are" and "close parenthesis" as "barfo". Try it now.
I'm willing to admit it isn't the ideal stat for a "playing off of the ball" debate, but it, coupled with actual observation, is the closest I can come up with to say that Brandon Roy's game is more similar to Wade/Bryant than it is to Rip Hamilton. I'd love to see a stat that calculated how much time per possession a player has the ball in their hands. Does it exist?
