Great, they fired Byron Scott

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  1. ABM

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    Perhaps.

    I do know that until Jordan learned to be more unselfish, the Bulls didn't become ultra-successful. Plus, they ran that triangle thing. Not sure if that contributed to the Jordan-Pip duo's success, or not.

    Nonetheless, I'd almost rather see Rudy and LMA here with CP3, as opposed to Roy.
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    I think Roy's plethora of skills would allow him to mold his game. He played the ball-dominating focal point because that's what the team needed badly. I don't think very many people saw him in that role coming out of college, let alone only capable of that role. Granted, he's surpassed pretty much all pre-draft expectations, but that well-rounded offensive game is still intact, even if he's turned out to be a superior scorer than many of us thought. He might not be happy at first, since he's used to this, but I think he'd figure out how to optimize his talents in a new role.

    That's a good question. Aldridge could be a center, IMO, but they do have similar high post games on offense. New Orleans might need to make a further trade after, or figure out how to incorporate two similar types of players on offense.
     
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    I know I am being repetitive, but I don't think New Orleans would be interested in any kind of lateral trade involving Roy or Aldridge. That would not help them on the court or financially. They would only be interested in trading Paul if they reached a point where they felt they needed to blow up the team and start over. So, their main interest would be saving money and getting young prospects and draft picks.

    They might consider expiring contracts (Outlaw, Blake), young guys (Batum, Rudy and Bayless) and our 2010 and 2012 draft picks plus Pryzbilla for Paul and some bad contracts. They could then trade Pryzbilla for possibly an expiring contract plus a draft pick. I had originally thought that they might be interested in Okafor being the bad contract since over 4 years his is the most expensive. However if they blow up the team they would be wise to trade him separately for younger assets, so I guess we would take back either Peja or Posey.

    I think they would definitely do the trade if we included Oden instead of Blake; then we would not take back bad contracts and would not include Pryzbilla, I don't think I would do the trade then, unless we could keep Batum, and maybe not even then
     
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    the firing definitely hurts us; teams always play great after a firing; almost always
     
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    Last year, Reggie Theus was fired 2 days before we destroyed them by 42 points (hence the "almost" in your statement).
     
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    This replacement is a suit from the front office, I don't think his players are gonna be fired up to play for him. Usually an assistant that all the players respect takes over.
     
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    Yes, but that team just plain sucked either way. Even inspired basketball wouldn't be able to save them. :D
     
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    I am a HUGE Aldridge homer, but I wouldn't like CP3, Aldridge and Oden as opposed to CP3, Roy and Oden. All three of them can and will punish you. They all are in different positions in the court, all demanding doubles. Also, Roy is way more clutch than Aldridge. As much as I would hate to see him go, if we were to give up any of our big three, it would be aldridge to get a player of CP3's caliber.
     
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    The plot thickens, just a tiny little bit.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4652125
     
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    Yea I promise if he comes here they will ask him before firing Nate!:tsktsk:

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    Interesting idea regarding a hypothetical deal. I keep forgetting about Fernandez. If, hypothetically we had to trade Roy for CP3 (main pieces), Rudy could actually start and possibly be so much better with a facilitator like CP3. If we dealt Aldridge as one of the pieces, it's harder to find a "big man" to replace him with.

    I know it's crazy, but realistically we would be better off dealing Roy, than Aldridge as the main piece of the puzzle, especially if we can keep Rudy on the team.
     
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    I disagree.

    I'd rather have Roy than Rudy + Aldridge.

    Aldridge is good, but power forwards at his level are easier to get than top-10 or -15 players.

    Ed O.
     
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    +1.

    Roy is a lot tougher to replace in this league in my opinion. I like Aldridge a lot. I want him to stick around on our team. I think he will, as well. But an 18 and 8, roughly, PF, is going to be easier to replace than Roy. Not just Roy's #s, but his overall impact on the team. I understand Paul could have a big impact on guys. I still don't see him as the clsoer, go-to guy at the end of an NBA Finals series like I do Roy. Others do, that's fine. I think it would be easier to find a replacement for Aldridge and get 80 cents on the dollar, and still succeeed than taking 80 cents on the dollar with Roy and all he brings.
     
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    My opinion as well. You do not trade Roy to keep Rudy and LMA.
     
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    I stand corrected. :D
     
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    and Batum & Freeland who I'm pretty sure is a valued prospect. Outlaw and Webster are both young and relatively cheap too.
    + Batum, Freeland, Webster, Blake(expiring), Joel, and $PA$

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    Hey I actually made a deal work, with all the crappy Trade exemptions, PPP and cap issues. Okay so here it is.

    Portland deals: T Outlaw, Aldridge, R. Fernandez, J. Bayless
    They receive: Chris Paul

    Chicago deals: Kirk Hinrich, Johnson and Brad Miller
    They receive: R. Fernandez, Emeka Okafor, Peja and Travis Outlaw

    NO trades: Chris Paul, Peja and Okafor
    They Receive: LMA, J. Bayless, Brad Miller, Hinrich and Johnson (cap filler)

    Portland's new line-up: CP3, Roy, Webster, Howard, Oden
    Bench: Miller, Blake, Pryzbilla

    Looks like we are a little thin, but couldn't we bring a couple Euros like Freeland to fill up our roster?

    <edited> Oh btw... Hollinger's analysis Blazers: +12 wins, NO: -29 wins, Chicago: +12 wins. Only thing that helps NO is salary and rebuilding I guess. :(
     
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    Don't know about Freeland and others (We do however still have the amazingly recovered Batum, Dante, Piechart and Krabby Patty) - but there is no way we do not see Miller and Blake in the starting unit.

    It will be the all-amazing 4 guard unit with CP3, Blake, Miller, Roy and Oden.

    Just an FYI.
     
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    I don't know if you caught the post before I edited it, but Hollinger says +12 wins for Portland, +12 wins for Chicago and -29 wins for NO. Do you think NO would even consider it? They maybe able to shoot for a top 5 pick with the amount of losses they get.
     

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