2008 Blake V. 2009 Miller - Advanced Statistical Comparison

Miller isn't playing as well as Blake last year either. Perhaps Blake is playing out of position. No one will acknowledge that Miller, statistically, has been a downgrade.

Could be. The advanced don't show it yet, but if Miller keeps on playing like he did last night, perhaps he'll be an upgrade over Blake at PG with Roy at SG.

 

Yes, but by that logic, playing Miller is still a correct decision because 2009 Blake is an even bigger downgrade than 2009 Miller. (From 2008 Blake)

 

Except Miller is the variable that wasn't there last year, and Miller is Blake's replacement at PG.

So ... find me some stats. I'm willing to debate them, but nobody outside of RR7 (Oden vs. Przy) has even attempted to validate their opinion with anything outside of, well, their opinion.

 

Ah, but I already pointed out, we are 7-1 with Miller as our starting point guard. We are off to the best start in years. Does that not matter?

 

Dude you are seriously crazy...

 

In terms of offensive efficiency versus last year, it doesn't matter. In terms of me being happy as a fan of the Blazers (outside of reading this board at times), it does matter.

That said, BLANKY'S Win% is much higher than anybody else on the roster this year. Does that mean that BLANKY should be the SG over Roy?

 

NateBishop, this is acceptable?

 

In reference to you

 

I get that. I'm just wondering where calling a poster "crazy" falls in the TOS/personal insult arena.

 

But im not attacking u, im worried about you....like maybe you need to get evaluated

 

Is this the proper place for your "concern"?

Nate, you guys are losing control of this place.

 

PapaG, your mock outrage is what really gets me.

I called your statistical comparison laughable because it compares incomparable data points, two seperate seasons, different mixes of players, completely different styles of play ... there are ways to compare Miller and Blake, but what you did seemed awfully intent on showing the parts you thought would validate Blake and undermine Miller.

We get it, you hate the Roy/Miller pairing in the backcourt and you think his presence is detrimental to our offense and you've had a beef with him ever since you learned that he wasn't showing up to training camp early and that he didn't pass Nate's conditioning test, etc.

If you're satisfied with your stats and the way they line up and you think you were merely providing us with data for our edification and information and weren't trying to make a point then so be it. Have a nice day.

 

I only offered the data. Also, I advocated Miller starting, but you must have missed that.

I'll take this post as an admission that there is no data that exists that says that the offense is better this season (so far) than it was last season. So, I extrapolate that info and arrive at the conclusion that Miller has been a bust thus far.

It's against S2's CW, but it seems to be supported statistically.

 

I have to wonder why me posting some stats has so many people in what seems to be an outrage.

 

I've invited you, and others, to add information that validates Miller and undermines Blake.

No one can do it. Oddly, that appears to be my fault.

 

That's called confusing causation with correlation and it's a logical fallacy. But if it makes you feel better to think that's some admission or concession, then OK.

 

You're right, Blake is awesome and makes everything better, Miller makes it stink. Feel better now?

 

All we have is correlation. Causation, in this instance, is opinion-based. I'll gladly accept the data as being a determinent of the conclusion, or at least include it in forming an opinion.

 

I never said that.

 

Night night.