WOW. Roy's a bitch?

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Roy, Aldridge and Oden definitely can. This is when they are all on the same page. I can give you countless teams that made it to the finals with much less (and this is that PG you keep harping about). Miami for one (Jason Williams?) come on. Bulls (Paxson or BJ Armstrong? LMAO). Sixers (Eric Snow? Yeah right). I can go on. Now the ones that won it all, most all had dominate big men and a low post threat.
     
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    Chris Paul comes to mind first, and I'd even throw other players WITH Roy to get it done....Not a huge fan of Melo, but the way he is playing lately? Maybe so...You don't see him complaining about Chauncey Billups do you? I wonder....Do you think Roy would?
    hmm.......

    The only guy with an abundance of silver spoons right now is Roy...and wow, he is acting like it....
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Out of context. "solely responsible for taking us from the "laughing stock of the NBA" to a team people love to watch". He became the NBA darling. The player that people wanted to see break down triple teams in the paint and still score. Had nothing to do with their record, but the entertainment value. Roy will be the first to tell you, this is a team effort. Which doesn't mean he was the only won that gave us wins. What I am telling you is, you toss all those other players out there, excluding Roy and we don't make the playoffs for sure. So who's more important?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Melo's game is off the ball. He doesn't like being the #1 playmaker. Maybe you can make a apples to apples comparison. How about Magic liking Stockton to come in at point, and they move him to PF.
     
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    When did i harp on about a PG? I said he needs more help. If that comes at a different position like SF than fine. But in my opinion, Miller can be that help that makes Oden and Aldridge difference Makers..

    Roy or Blake cant
     
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    Hear much? From who? It would be folly to believe that Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, and Przybilla do not have good to great value around the league. You also discount the contributions of Outlaw, James Jones, Aldridge, Jack, and Webster on that 41-41 win team.
     
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    Well considering why this thread was started, I would assume you would think that. I don't think Roy can do it alone, but I really believe Roy, Aldridge and Oden can if they are used properly.
     
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    When he was averaging 30+ a game in the 09 playoffs, I'm not sure what he was keeping in check for Phil.

    I think Kobe overcoming Fisher's deficiencies, or Phil's favorite role player, is what kept the Lakers in check.
     
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    Roy does not make Aldridge/Oden better
    Blake does not make Aldridge/Oden better

    Miller does make Aldridge/Oden better

    This is my only argument here
     
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    You are 100% missing the point. You are thinking I said the "Turn around" has anything to do with wins when I said "Laughing stock of the NBA" to a team that everyone wants to watch. Zach and Co, or even the jail-blazers before that were hard to watch. Then Roy comes in and is all class, all about the culture and represents himself well in front of the media. We were the laughing stock because of our demeanor as a unit in whole. A bunch of "bad characters" that cared only about themselves. Then this player comes in and is far from that. And if you think this latest Quote from Roy says otherwise, then we can agree to just disagree.
     
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    Without another Superstar Shaq never wins any of those titles, at least Kobe did something greats like Bird, Magic, Jordan couldn't. Gasol is nice but not on the level of other second options.

    I didn't know Jordan made it out of the first round without Pippen.
     
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    And while out of the side of his mouth, he'll say, "as long as I am in control and I am getting mine".

    Yes, Roy is the best overall player on the Blazers. No, he doesn't deserve more than his fair share of credit than his teammates do for the turnaround. Without Outlaw, that 41-41 win team probably loses five more games. Last season, Aldridge, Blake, and Przybilla have career years. Rudy contributes mightily off the bench. Oden plays well when he plays. Outlaw and Batum have their moments. Even Bayless helped win a couple games.
     
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    Yea your making my point.

    I wasnt trying to say that shaq was the reason LA won three in a row...i was trying to make a correlation to what the Blazers are expiriencing
     
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    Honestly, I don't understand why there is so much panic in Portland. Your roster is so young and talented, I wouldn't be freaking out like others yet.
     
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    (sigh) And all of those players have one time or another said those "career years" had everything to do with Roy making them better. You must play fantasy basketball. You have no clue about the things that don't end up in the stats sheets.
     
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    what else have we to do?
     
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    When your star player that just signed an 85$ mil contract seems to care more about himself than the TEAM there should be concern
     
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    Miller makes Aldridge better? LMA's PER is the lowest of his career so far (yes, lower than his rookie year). How, exactly, does he make Aldridge better?

    Greg Oden's PER is higher - but in 36 mpg - he gets only 1 more FGA than last year. I would argue that Greg Oden's PER is higher because he turns the ball less and he worked on his body this year.

    Andre Miller's big impact on our bigs, so far, is pretty much a myth...
     
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    Well he has played center before....

    Your point though? I mean perish the thought of keeping Roy at SG and moving Blake to the bench.....
     
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    Based on what. Your assumptions?
     

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