List of New Taxes in Senate Healthcare Bill

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  1. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, I think they could argue, in your allegory, that it's too late to do anything about it once the SW is at your door. Or at least to fix the situation you have to blow him up and your front door, and it might take out your car, grandmother who is sunbathing nude in your front yard (who lives with you upstairs because she can't afford her medical bills), your neighbor who is having sex with your nude sunbathing grandmother, and your cat Toonces who was actually driving your car.
     
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    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    I thought he was your friend and hero? :devilwink:
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's ok. Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. I would like to spare Toonces, though.

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Nah, my friend and hero is the Capitalist Chipmunk. He's just so cute, stuffing everything he can find into his cheeks.

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  5. elcap15

    elcap15 I slap you

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    Some of the criticisms fo Medicare did come true. Mostly about its ever increasing cost and unsustainability.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)

    Unforseen tax increases happened

    And costs couldnt be controlled

     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Again, don't focus on the current legislation as an ending point, but rather a beginning one.

    I never said anything about Medicare as I wasn't born when it passed. Those of us on the right don't all think alike. My comments are about this healthcare debate. And this debate has nothing to do with giving everyone access to care, but rather with expanding the power of the state over the individual and more specifically with trying to permanently shift the political power in this country to the Left. If they just wanted to cover the uninsured, there are cheaper and simpler ways to do it.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I prefer to consider legislation as individual bills, because that's the way they are voted on in congress. I understand you see it as some sort of predestination where future congresspeople lack free will and this one bill sets in motion an unstoppable series of future events, but I just don't see it that way. My opinion, there are many many possible future paths, and our future congressfolk will be choosing among them.

    I know you didn't - but the fact that you are repeating their (proven incorrect) arguments suggests to me that maybe there is some learning from history that should be going on here.

    Well, obviously the two of us are never going to convince each other. But I think you are being unnecessarily paranoid. The sky is not going to fall if we insure another 30 million people. And, sure, there would be better ways to do this. This bill is a compromise, it's not anybody's ideal bill. It's what we can do given the governmental system we have.

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