<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 22 2006, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know. I also feel Kobe is better than Bron at this moment, but people saying Kobe had that amazing performance at 21 is such an advatange is unfair as Bron at 21 has accomplished so much more than Kobe did at 21 and will never have the chance to play with a top 5 center all time and a top 15 team all time.</div>Yeah, I'll agree with that.But just to add to it, Kobe never had the oppurtunity to come onto a team and be the number one option. Lebron did, so Kobe had accomplished barely anything individually when he was 21.
True, although I think it is amazing Kobe is in his prime right now and just a hair better than Bron, who is about 6-7 years away from his prime.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 22 2006, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>True, although I think it is amazing Kobe is in his prime right now and just a hair better than Bron, who is about 6-7 years away from his prime.</div>Well, that remains to be seen. Remember a couple years ago when everyone said Kobe had peaked? He came back and averaged 35 a night. We don't even know if Kobe's at his highest level yet. But I think as far as offense, Lebron won't get much better than this. But his defense will improve as time goes on, much like his jumpshot and ability in clutch situations.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 23 2006, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lebron>Kobe and Cavs>Lakers. If you switched Lebron and Kobe than the Lakers would be around 50 wins. Lebron is that dominating.</div> :HAHAHA: You're annoying me. Time for for a dirk nowitzki thread.tell me, lebron gets alot of assits through open men hitting theit shots. Will lebron somehow make sasha make open shots?
Anyone watch today how Lebron dominated the Wizards by PASSING? Kobe is limited there because he doesn't see the floor better. Also Lebron is a better rebounder and more efficient shooter. Lebron this year has been amazing so I give him the edge over Kobe. Kobe is a scorer and doesn't fill up the stats in other categories like Lebron does.
Whatever, Melo you can take over, I'm done with this. I actually gained some respect for Nitro through these posts. The guy really knows what he's talking about.
Anyone watch today how Lebron dominated the Wizards by PASSING? Kobe is limited there because he doesn't see the floor better. Also Lebron is a better rebounder and more efficient shooter. Lebron this year has been amazing so I give him the edge over Kobe. Kobe is a scorer and doesn't fill up the stats in other categories like Lebron does.Kobe does pass, in the opening minutes if everyone is hitting their shots he continues passing. Kobe only goes into solo mode when everyone is bricking their shots. Sasha atleast bricks 2 shots off kobe's passes.Mavsfan, who is better. Tim duncan or kevin garnett? This will show how idiotic you really are
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Apr 22 2006, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whatever, Melo you can take over, I'm done with this. I actually gained some respect for Nitro through these posts. The guy really knows what he's talking about.</div>Thanks man, means a lot. I agree, Kobe and Bron are still years away from peaking. It is gonna be exciting, and hopefully when Cavs play Lakers next year it will be a Finals matchup preview for sometime down the road :rock:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 23 2006, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks man, means a lot. I agree, Kobe and Bron are still years away from peaking. It is gonna be exciting, and hopefully when Cavs play Lakers next year it will be a Finals matchup preview for sometime down the road :rock:</div>Lakers vs cavs would attract people who have never watched the nba in their lives.Off topic now but Stern said yesteday that the lakers could upser the suns. That means Stern is going to fix it and kobe is going to get to the line 30 times
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 22 2006, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks man, means a lot. I agree, Kobe and Bron are still years away from peaking. It is gonna be exciting, and hopefully when Cavs play Lakers next year it will be a Finals matchup preview for sometime down the road :rock:</div>Hopefully yes. Realistically naahhh.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clutch_Melo_061 @ Apr 23 2006, 03:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anyone watch today how Lebron dominated the Wizards by PASSING? Kobe is limited there because he doesn't see the floor better. Also Lebron is a better rebounder and more efficient shooter. Lebron this year has been amazing so I give him the edge over Kobe. Kobe is a scorer and doesn't fill up the stats in other categories like Lebron does.Kobe does pass, in the opening minutes if everyone is hitting their shots he continues passing. Kobe only goes into solo mode when everyone is bricking their shots. Sasha atleast bricks 2 shots off kobe's passes.Mavsfan, who is better. Tim duncan or kevin garnett? This will show how idiotic you really are</div>How idiotic is you don't know how to use the quote button. Duncan is better because of his defense and low post game. Kobe is a selfish player and you try to hide it with every excuse out there but people that watch the games realize how he forgets about his teammates and has his own agenda.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 22 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How idiotic is you don't know how to use the quote button. Duncan is better because of his defense and low post game. Kobe is a selfish player and you try to hide it with every excuse out there but people that watch the games realize how he forgets about his teammates and has his own agenda.</div>Oh okay, so how many games have you watched being a Mavericks fan? Because I don't know about Melo, but I watched 82 games this year. I'm pretty sure I've seen a little more of Kobe Bryant than you have.I can't believe I was drawn back into this, ayyy.
Well in the playoffs, players show their true colors. Kobe in the playoffs is what I've been watching.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 22 2006, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well in the playoffs, players show their true colors. Kobe in the playoffs is what I've been watching.</div>Kobe hasn't been in the playoffs in 2 years.
Kobe was out of the playoffs for 1 year. I was talking about the years with Shaq and how great the role players were on that team. Could you get a more clutch player than Fisher? Also adding Malone and Payton? The lakers were loaded yet Kobe decided that it was his team and it cost them against the Pistons.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 22 2006, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe was out of the playoffs for 1 year. I was talking about the years with Shaq and how great the role players were on that team. Could you get a more clutch player than Fisher? Also adding Malone and Payton? The lakers were loaded yet Kobe decided that it was his team and it cost them against the Pistons.</div>First of all, yes you could get more clutch then Fisher, what a weird statement. Malone and Payton were great, until the finals. Malone went out and Payton averaged 3 or 4 PPG. Yeah, Kobe tried to force it and they lost, I don't think they would've won anyways, w/o Malone and Payton playing the worst ball of his career, Kobe and Shaq couldn't single handedly win that series.
Yeah but Kobe made sure they didn't. Prince had his number yet Kobe had an ego so he took it as a one on one challenge instead of getting his teammates involved. Shaq was single teamed and they should've gone more to him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Lamar Odom and Kobe Bryant are the reasons the Lakers got to the playoffs. Take out Lamar Odom and the Lakers don't have a chance to make the playoffs. It is not a one man team. Odom does a lot of the dirty work like rebounding and defense. He just struggles on fitting well with Kobe and who doesn't with someone who has the ball so much and yet doesn't get a lot of assists.</div>You are overrating Odoms defense. Also Kobe does NOT take away from Odoms game. The triangle does.
Kobe and Shaq were having one of their usual fights, unfortunately it was at the worst possible time. Whenever the ball would go to either of them it was going up or to a teammate not named O'neal or Bryant. Shaq played better because he had a much smaller man on him, Kobe was doubled and yeah, he shoulda kicked it back. But I fail to see what this has to do with Kobe now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Apr 23 2006, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are overrating Odoms defense. Also Kobe does NOT take away from Odoms game. The triangle does.</div>Odom gives Dirk problems and his length and speed should make him a good defensive player
