UFC 107: Penn vs. Sanchez December 12th, 2009 FedEx Forum, Memphis, Tennessee PPV (10:00PM EST) 155lbs. BJ Penn (C) vs. Diego Sanchez 265lbs. Frank Mir vs. Cheick Kongo 155lbs. Kenny Florian vs. Clay Guida 170lbs. Jon Fitch vs. Mike Pierce 265lbs. Paul Buentello vs. Stefan Struve 185lbs. Wilson Gouveia vs. Alan Belcher 155lbs. Shane Nelson vs. Matt Wiman 170lbs. Kevin Burns vs. TJ Grant 170lbs. DeMarcus Johnson vs. Edgar Garcia 170lbs. Ricardo Funch vs. Johny Hendricks 185lbs. Rousimar Palhares vs. Lucio Linhares
George S or Grove deserved SOTN more than Kos. George's Armbar -> Armcrush -> armbar transition looked pretty good. and Grove's armbar, and then triangle on one side to the other was pretty good as well. Kos just did a RNC, which is pretty common, although he had an impressive performance. That had little to do with boxing (although I didn't see much improvement from previous fights), and more to do with cardio. Tito's conditioning isn't 100% yet, and it's not surprizing considering his long layoff, and after the surgery he couldn't be active. Things will only get better for Tito as he gets into fighting shape. He's not the only one. Chuck, Hendo, Crocop, etc have thrown some bad eye pokes.
Yeah, I feel bad for them eyes. When you make Forrest Griffin look like a world class boxer, you fucking suck at it.
Agreed. Rumble/Koscheck was way too controversial (not the word I'm looking for, but it'll do) for me. Too much stoppage, too many accidental strikes.
I disagree with all three bonuses. Amir/NYBA fight of the night; George sub of the night; Ben Saunders KO of the night.
Payouts... Forrest Griffin, $250,000 ($150,000 win bonus) def. Tito Ortiz, $250,000 Josk Koscheck, $246,000 ($53,000 win + $70,000 FOTN + $70,000 SOTN) def. Anthony Johnson, $87,000 ($60,000 FOTN) Paulo Thiago, $16,000 ($8,000 win) def. Jacob Volkmann, $6,000 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, $170,000 ($30,000 win + $70,000 KOTN) def. Luiz Cane, $19,000 Amir Sadollah, $30,000 ($15,000 win) def. Phil Baroni, $25,000 Ben Saunders, $20,000 ($10,000 win) def. Marcus Davis, $27,000 Kendall Grove, $114,000 ($22,000 win + $70,000 SOTN) def. Jake Rosholt, $15,000 Brian Foster, $12,000 ($6,000 win) def. Brock Larson, $26,000 Caol Uno, $20,000 drew Fabricio Camoes, $10,000
that was a pretty good card given that Carwin/Lesnar was dropped and at the last minute Karysan/Hazeltt too. I think they promoted the right fight to the main Card. Thiago/Volkman was a good fight, although I think we can all agree Thiago got a fortunate shot in on Kos that turned his lights out, rather than considering him to be at that level. I like Phil Baroni and I keep hoping he'll find a gas tank, but until he does he's one fight away from being expelled I would imagine. Still I find him entertaining and a character so I hope he can get a win or two soon. Amir really impressed me with his Muay Thai and moreso with his ability to weather the early storm. I think he'll be a good not very good fighter at 170. Ben Saunders, I really like this guy and wow did he ever put it to Marcus Davis. Right after I saw the tale of the tape and was reminded of Davis's age, I thought uh-oh. And a kind word to Mr. Davis.. go watch the Saunders, Swick fight, you'll be kicking yourself in the ass for not following Swick's blueprint to beating Saunders. gah how the hell do you let Kendal Grove Submit you if you're a world class wrestler like that Jake Rosholt?? Did you take ANY BJJ classes since starting your career?!? not the sharpest crayon in the box losing twice to submissions like that. Yeah I had higher hopes for Rosholt... I'm lowering them for now. Little Nog, fighting subpar competition for the majority of 3 yrs didn't hurt at all.. glad to know it, the LHW division needs a new challenger and it looks like they've found it. Keith Jardine as a tune up to a title fight next? Sounds good to me. Never like Josh Koscheck, but I respect his willingness to fight often and fight anyone. Dear Mr. Rumble, next stop 185 division where the cut won't have you gassing in the 2nd round. like everyone else, I am wondering what was in that judge's water to score the main event 30-27. Still the right result happened, and either Tito is no longer an elite fighter or 18 months and back surgery just killed it for him. Just the same he's out of the title picture until he gets 3 good wins, or Machida runs outta challengers. OH wait, Machida already beat Tito, he's fucked.
Grove played things right, and locked it up quick. If I'm not mistaken though, Grove almost caught Almeida in a triangle as well, and Almeida is a reknowned BJJ guy. (3rd degree black belt under Renzo) Having surgery like that, a guy has to take a lot of time off, and rest. Muscles atrophy, guys lose their conditioning, and it takes a while to rehab whatever area that had surgery on to the level of other muscle groups. Tito-Forrest 2 looked a lot like Shogun-Forrest, Tito and Shogun had respectable showings in the first 2 rounds, and in the 3rd both fighter's cardio died. Shogun against Coleman looked far far worse than Tito did against Forrest. Now look at Shogun now that he has his cardio back, he is considered #2. Tito as time goes on, his cardio/conditioning will get back to that elite level. The only problem is that he kind of took things too fast (not his intent), because Coleman dropped out. I bet that Tito would have beat Coleman just like Shogun managed to do, except Shogun's cardio was worse at that point. His next fight needs to be an easy one. If Tito gets 2 decent wins, and 1 big one. And Machida manages to keep the belt that long. He'll start saying "I was the closest fighter to finishing Machida, except this time I have no back or cardio problems." 30-27 wasn't all that unreasonable. The first 2 rounds were very close. With close rounds like that, you could have 1 judge think the first 2 were Forrests and another judge think the first 2 were Titos. Even 28-28 wouldn't be unreasonable. Personally I thought it was 29-27. RD 1: Forrest 10-9 RD 2: Tito 10-9 RD 3: Forrest 10-8 Personally I thought that 29-28 Ortiz was more surprizing than 30-27 for Forrest.
What I love are the people on Sherdog claiming Ortiz won the fight 30-27. The animosity a minority of "hardcore" fans have for Griffin is comical.
Sherdog, more than most forums is filled with retards. However that is strange, I was on the forum quite a bit right after the fight and the next day, and only saw 1 person who wasn't even claiming that Tito won, but said "why aren't there any threads saying Tito won?"
Sherdog, the national enquirer of mma forums, you're better off going to the UG to get decent MMA conversation but there's more than it's fair share of trolls there too. I avoid both now and go to mmajunkie.
if the first two rounds were close, then a judge could have given it to Ortiz too I guess, but I still agree with your assessment for the rounds most. Forrest threw 175 strikes in the 3rd round and Tito did like 5-15 I believe sooo it's very reasonable to give the third round a 10-8 IMO. Tito was like a bigger version of Phil Baroni in the 3rd, a stationary punching bag. I know Tito will try and sell a title shot, but IMO he doesn't deserve one at all. If he can beat say Rashad, Little Nog and or Rampage when he gets back (I hope he comes back) then yeah beating 2 of those 3 guys will earn him a shot, but not before.
Forrest won, no question. The first round was close but I think Tito had the edge for the G&P damage he managed to inflict. Forrest took the 2nd and 3rd. 29-28. I don't think the 3rd was 10-8 though because nothing Forrest did really hurt Tito that much. I think you should only give 10-8 rounds when it is utter domination (ex. GSP-Penn rounds 3 and 4) or when there is a knockdown to go along with a lopsided round overall (ex. GSP-Hughes 2 round 1).
Hm, its funny how people see fights differently. I scored Rd. 1 for Forrest because he took less damage that round than he did in round 2, correct? Wasn't he busted up in round 2? I gave Forrest 1 and 3, Ortiz 2.
I thought Tito won round 1 just cause he got some nice takedowns and controlled the action for most of the round. Round two could have gone to Tito but the reversal by Griffin swung it for me and made it pretty close, so I thought the Judges would give that round to Griffin. 3rd is obvious.
There was one thread where people were saying things like " how can anybody who doesn't work for Zuffa think Griffin won a round." Pretty amazing stuff. Of course, this was the next day - so the Sunday morning QBs were out in force.
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