Fire Nate POLL

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Would you fire nate IF you were kp

  1. yes

    51.9%
  2. no

    48.1%
  1. odenied

    odenied Blazer fan 4 life

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    I do not think so but Here is a unscientific what if poll. The question is if you were kp do you jump ship on the coach
     
  2. RoyIsClutch07

    RoyIsClutch07 Active Member

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    It's either poor coaching or we have three very over rated ball players in Roy, Aldridge and Oden. I prefer to think that it's the latter.
     
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    LittleAlex Well-Known Member

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    So all three players are over rated? Maybe LMA, but not Roy and Oden. First Roy is damn good. Second Oden is widely considered to be a bust. If anything Oden is way under rated.

    Right now the team seems to need a change of some kind. Since you can't fire your players that typically falls on the coach.
     
  4. Bosco

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    I voted no, because it's WAAAY to early to do this, but if this team under achieves meaning under .500 this season, I think it needs to really be a heavy priority.
     
  5. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Nate's a pretty goody coach. But I wonder if he just has too much history here now. He and guys like Blake and Przybilla and Webster and even Roy and Aldridge all go back to the dark days of the past. He seems to defer to those guys too much, while not maximizing newer players like Bayless, Oden, Fernandez and Miller. The truth is several of the new guys are a lot better than several of the old guys, and it's time to ride the new horses more.

    I didn't vote to fire Nate. But the vote is getting harder. The retarded two point guard lineup that he still throws out there all too often just needs to go.

    Blake needs to see the far end of the bench, behind Bayless. Williams used Blake like he was his tampon out there. Fucking hideous.

    And Roy. Fucking A. End of the quarter yesterday he walked the ball up and there was about 3 seconds left on the clock before he fucking realizes he's got to shoot and takes some ugly shit. Just not fucking paying attention. Well, that happens, you say. Except he fucking did it again tonight. Wanders across midcourt languidly dribbling with about 5 seconds left, looks up, says "Oh shit" and tosses it to Andre Miller at the goddamn three point line. Miller has to shoot it because Roy's fuckup doesn't give him a choice.

    Roy has looked seriously fucking overpaid out there. That's not necessarily the coach's fault, but the coach has got to figure out how he's going to wake him up.
     
  6. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Everyone voting yes, I feel, is jumping the gun. If the team underachieves on the season, then you'd have a case.
     
  7. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    the team is already under achieving.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I meant play out the entire season first.
     
  9. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Not yet. If we rattle off four more losses in a row, he should probably go.
     
  10. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The issues that the team has now, are the same ones they've had the whole time Nate has been coach. And at least then you could argue it was warranted due to the lack of talent on the team.

    They aren't using Greg worth shit, or Rudy, and he's relying on Blake too much. He played Roy out of position instead of, god forbid, trying Miller and Roy in the starting 5. He is unable to change the offense for players (why on earth is Andre ever camped out in the 3 point line?) and he doesn't incorporate a 2 man game with Greg and anyone else. Their perimeter defense is inept. They don't get easy shots, and they don't run at all.

    The only time they did any running was when Miller was in the starting lineup. And the times they go to Greg is best when ANdre is playing. You know how Brandon and Andre are going ot get used to each other? By playing together.

    This team was supposed to take a step forward this year, and so far they've taken a step back. Tonights game looked like it was being played by a team that should win maybe 28 games, instead of 58.
     
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  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    It's soooo tempting to root for that.
     
  12. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    So, it's all Nate's fault? I don't agree with that thinking and I don't think KP does either. Nate has done enough over 4 years that he deserves an entire season of evaluation before being canned.
     
  13. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    whats deserves got to do with it?

    I'm not willing, as a fan, to risk a whole season lost because Nate has "deserved" a whole season. This isn't friend ship, this is business. Mike Shuler, won COtY in 86-87, won 51 game games the year after, and was fired 48 games into 88-89.

    Byron Scott coached a team that went to 2 straight NBA finals and was canned.

    He won COtY 2 years ago and was canned this year (and probably about half a season too late).

    Sam Mitchel won COtY and was canned soon after.

    Same with Avery Johnson. Hell, his team went to the finals and he was fired.

    Rick Adleman who took the team to 3 WCF's and 2 NBA finals, was fired 2 years after his last Finals appearance.

    Dunleavy was fired a YEAR after going to two straight WCF's.

    Nate hasn't earned shit.
     
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  14. Uther TheGardener

    Uther TheGardener Tall Timbers

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    the team is underachiving.....
     
  15. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    To me, firing Nate and hiring a new coach 19 games into the season is also risking the entire season.
     
  16. cdub503

    cdub503 Well-Known Member

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    who would you get as a coach now that is available? let monty do it?
     
  17. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If the team has already given up on him, how can it get worse?

    I'm not convinced they haven't. They've had 19 games to play and after a good season last year they still are doing the same mistakes they did 3 years ago.

    I know they lost Batum and Outlaw, but that doesn't explain how shitty Blake is playing, and how Roy has stopped playing defense and LaMarcus doesn't either. nor does it explain how the team doesn't utilize Greg Oden or Rudy.
     
  18. RoyIsClutch07

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    I never realized this board had so many Nate lovers.
     
  19. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    You are assuming that

    1.) The team has given up on Nate.

    2.) They will embrace the new coach.

    3.) The new coach is better than Nate.

    4.) The team can learn a new system on the fly.

    5.) The new system is significantly better than the one we currently have.

    6.) The new coach will utilize Oden and Rudy better.

    Geez, that seems like risking the season to me. We didn't come out to a horrid start like New Orleans. Even if we've been crapping on bad teams, we're still 12-7. So until you show me 41-41 or something similar at the end of the season, you play it safe and stick with Nate.
     
  20. cdub503

    cdub503 Well-Known Member

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    i voted no just because i dont see anyone reasonable to replace him. not to say i looooooove nate but i dont necessarily hate him.... all the time
     

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