I would trade Bosh for Bynum, and that would solve all the problems

Nah, the Blazers are having their own problems right now and I'd rather not talk about it.

BNM

 

You know, if I was the only one here who thought you were dumb, then it's just my own opinion. But when multiple people share the same sentiments, there just may be some truth to what is being said.

 

lol Kobe knows nothing about managing a roster. That would be like handing a gun to a 3 year old.

If Kobe had his way, Bynum would be gone by now, and hell Kobe would have been traded to another team by now.

 

You cant be fucking serious...If you bust out the "ship his ass out" video as some sort of proof I might die of laughter.

Next "evidence" you will find I suppose is a Phil Jackson comment that is intended to play mind games with Bynum and say thats proof he wants him out of there. Which player hasnt Phil thrown a tongue and cheek remark at?

....I have a good read of the zen master...give me a fucking break

 

Yep. Durant will win scoring titles. Oden will win NBA titles. You still need defense and rebounding to win. Oden gives you that. Durant doesn't.

BNM

 

The Lakers are Kobe and Pau, Bynum has done very little in his career. The improved defense this year is because combining Kobe with Artest makes things easier for everyone.

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910LAL.HTM

Bynum didn't do anything in the title run, he was injured. Gasol is what got it done and the kind of aggressive move Kobe wanted (luxury tax hit other owners wouldn't make). Kobe was right in complaining about a 42-40 team when he was 29.

Whether they were freak injuries or not he's also had issues in high school IIRC. He was expected to come back from the first NBA injury by the end of the year, he wasn't close.

 

Question for deception: What does Bosh give the Lakers that they don't already have?

More offense? Haven't you learned that adding more and more offense while sacrificing defense itsn't a good thing? Isn't that why you proposed this (impossible) trade in the first place?

BNM

 

Pau Gasol was considered a mediocre or somewhat poor defender in Memphis. He was a fringe All-Star like Bosh, and then his game became more efficient playing with Kobe.

With the talent the Lakers have Bosh could be even better than he is now, or shoot more efficiently since we would not have to rely on him.

Ultimately health must be factored into this discussion, and Bosh has a better track history. It is something I would certainly consider.

 

stop trying to be a diligent mod and take a fucking stand!

Having Bosh and Gasol would be redundant...

If you just want to have a player A vs player B comparison then sure you can make arguments for Bosh...but when you look at the real life situation then it would be silly for the Lakers to consider that....if it was possible at all like BMN said but deception cant seem to grasp....again

 

Gasol is clearly a center on offense, him and Andrew do not have the best chemistry offensively. He's a tweener because he couldn't defend the center position in the past, which he now has improved after hitting the weights and bothering Dwight Howard (Shape once noted this as well).

Gasol has Power Forward skills, but he operates best like a traditional 5. He's a bit too clumsy to dribble drive and he doesn't have the footspeed of an elite 4.

 

But, would that not make him redundant with Pau? They both play a similar style. Playing them together would be redunant and I think would hurt the production of both players - they would get in each other's way.

Bynum and Pau have complimentary styles that don't conflict. We know they can co-exist, even thrive, on the court together. We don't know Bosh and Pau can co-exist. Maybe they can, maybe they can't? Maybe Bosh leaves next summer for Miami.

We also know Bynum is much more of a defensive presence than Bosh.

We also know that Bynum is BYC1 - making this trade impossible.

BNM

 

Bosh is a pure 4, while Pau has some of the best post moves in the game.

68% of Pau's shots come from inside, whereas Bosh works outside that range for the most part. There is no redundancy, if anything that occurs more with Andrew and Pau

 

Have you been watching the same Lakers I have? Gasol CLEARLY a C? Gasol is deadly from 17 feet out. On numerous occasions Ive seen Pau 15 feet out, choose not to shoot and lob it over to Bynum 5 feet out and Bynum lob it in...It looked like HS kids playing with 5th graders! Pau is a top notch passer in traffic. He finds the cutting man every time. I actually think they have worked great together when both have been 100% healthy. They are both 7 feet yet compliment each other with their different skillsets.

 

Pau Gasol can hit a jumper, what does that have to do with the fact that almost no center takes as many shots in the Paint?

 

Yes of course, Gasol would be fine with either guy.

 

Hes smart....we dont know if Bynum was in the game or where on the court during those shots, its also a small sample size.

Pau is a PF who can play C well if called upon to do so

(Ill assume your info is true)

 

What are you basing this on? Pau is much closer to a center offensively, and he has the capability to defend either Big position.

Odom played most of the 4 for the title run.

 

Small sample size. Pau has only played 6 games this year. Last year, with Bynum missing 32 games, only 59% of Pau's shots came from inside. That's quite low for a center (Bynum is at 74% this season, Howard and Oden at at 90%). Bosh only takes 47% of his shots inside. So, not only do you give up a LOT of interior defense if you swap Bynum for Bosh, you also give up a lot of low post scoring.

But, Bynum is BYC1, so it ain't happening.

BNM

 

What??? As I stated, Pau took only 59% of his shots from inside last season with Bynum missing 32 games. Bynum is at 74%, this season and Howard and Oden at 90%. Pau isn't close to leading the league's centers in shots in the paint.

BNM