I would trade Bosh for Bynum, and that would solve all the problems

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  1. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Do you realize what you are saying? So what if he is an inferior player compared to Howard? He is still elite at the 5, he shoots more in the paint than Tim Duncan.

    First you attacked my sample size. Then you only want to compare Gasol to an incomplete offensive player like Oden who doesn't have the volume or touches. These are all flawed positions Gasol has the sample size from last season and being the fourth, or whatever best center, is nothing to laugh at.
     
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    lol, boy this is pretty bad even for you Huevon.

    Where did I even mention Pau in this thread? Prior to your post claiming that I "allegedly" said Pau was a 4. lol


    This is pretty embarassing the way you make up things, and then make logical arguements with the wrong people.

    If you want my opinion on Pau is that he is a tweener, although he has improved his size some to play center.
     
  3. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Depends on how you define a "real" 4. Bosh doesn't play as physical as most traditional power forwards (not a lot of power in his game).

    Pau is a 5/4. He is versatile enough to play both positions well.

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    lol, you are joking right?

    Bynum didn't do jack in the playoffs. He was a scrub player.

    What do you know about Bynum's future? We are judging them by right now. If you want to predict some spectacular increase in production that is an entirely different situation.
     
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    You do not realize that Pau is more of a center then, my comment still applies dude.

    Even for me? What is that supposed to mean? Coming from someone who thinks Vince Carter is a Superstar on par with Kobe, that is funny.

    Your comment was extremely confusing, why don't you just clarify it then?

    You like Bynum, you said you would trade Bosh for him. If that is what you are referring to, I have already addressed that as well.
     
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  6. deception

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    they werent going to let him go- he's an asset and u retain assets until u can make an upgrade. here's my theory- where there is smoke, there is fire. is name is constantly involved in trade talks; he doesnt close out games; coach jackson appears at least publicly to ridicule the kid and he does have those wobbly knees.

    what does bosh give u? he's a more dependable lamar odam- he scores a lot easier, rebounds better, less off the court histrionics, gives u more consistent effort.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I didn't "attack" anything. Six games is a small sample size, no matter how you look at it. So, I used his much larger sample size from last year - when he played a lot at center due to Bynum's injury.

    Calm down. I'm not "laughing" at anything. I did NOT compare Oden's over all game to Pau's. Just pointing out that there are other centers who take a much higher percentage of their shots in the paint than Pau. It's a fact, not a value judgement.

    BNM
     
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    Hmm let me think, the Lakers have a better rating offensively/defensively with Odom and Pau in the game.

    Pau is obviously a center offensively, so is Bynum. That is the problem.
     
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    I said Pau is more a 5 than a 4, that has nothing to do with Howard.
     
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    HK you're talking about giving up size in the front court. Talent wise there's not much separation so you have to give Bynum the edge because of his size. In the playoffs size and flexibility win. I also don't know about Bosh's mental toughness. He's been accused of being "soft" by his peers and hasn't put together a complete season yet. There's also the learning curve you need for the Triangle offense and trust from PJax to play meaningful minutes.

    I'm not even convinced the Lakers would trade Odom for Bosh at this point.
     
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    how many four's play physical in the modern nba? your thinking about the game is antiquated. modern big men need to be versatile, an ideal big man can score from the outside as well in the post. look at your own big- alridge is a poor man's chris bosh and he seems to be doing just fine as demonstrated by the monster extension he just signed.
     
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    If Bosh has to rot on the bench, then that might be a problem. Bosh would need playing time, and for Odom to come off the bench.
     
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    Eh sorry I'm not mad at you btw. I like your input on topics it makes S2 more interesting Boob.
     
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    I have very little doubt that Lakers wouldn't pull that off. Bosh is younger, consistent, gets star calls, and has a good attitude.

    Don't expect Huevon to listen though about Bynum though.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I know he has shown very significant improvement this season compared to last. That's a very good sign for a 22-year old big man. If he simply maintains his current production, he will be one of the top five centers in the league over the next decade. Given his young age, I think there is a very ggood chance his production will continue to increase.

    What do we know about Bosh's future. We know his contract expires at the end of the season and he may chose to sign elsewhere. Do you want to give up a very young, productive center to potentially rent Chris Bosh for half a season?

    BNM
     
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    talent wise there isnt much separation? he's arguably the best four in the league and bynum hasnt played over 60 games since the 06 season. i acknowledge bosh's cowardice but he's been a 20/10 guy for the last 4 years- thats a first ballot hall of famer in anyone's estimation.
     
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    How would you compare Bosh this year, to other seasons deception? How has he improved in your opinion?

    I just want other Raptor fan opinions.
     
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    Oh of course, the contract and such would probably not work out. I don't consider this trade realistic at all.
     
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    yeah bosh would leave the premier market in the nba to sign with new jersey?
     
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    The Raptors are making an effort to improve, Chris has a decent shot at resigning. That is usually the way to bet in these situations.
     

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