"KP testing the market on Miller's worth?"

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  1. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    You know, that ain't a bad idea for either team. Houston has a real problem delivering the ball to Yao. Adding a PG like Miller to direct the offense could work. Houston already has Ariza to play the "perimeter defender" role, so it's not a big loss.

    Brooks is more of a SG anyway. He's undersized, but they could let Miller guard the SG's.

    We could use Battier for spot minutes at backup PF when Batum comes back. Somewhere along the way we dump Webster.

    Man--Battier, Aldridge and Oden at the 3/4/5 would be a defensive powerhouse.
     
  2. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Man, the arrogance on this board is sometimes beyond belief.
     
  3. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Explain.
     
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    Andre Miller is probably the best passer on the team, but by all means let's get rid of him, just because Roy has his panties in a knot over his "touches."
     
  5. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    As somebody who advocated the Miller signing, I'm not exactly eager to get rid of him, but I do recognize when something isn't working. For whatever reason, Dre in Portland has not been a good fit (Nate and he not seeing eye to eye on how to run the offense, Roy feeling out of sorts, whatever).

    No matter what it's going to be a helluva lot easier to move Miller than it would be to move Roy, and even if you fired Nate and handed the reins fully over to Miller I'm still pretty dubious that he and Brandon would ever find a rhythm.

    Maybe it's just the cut-and-run, 'surrender monkey', Democrat in me ...
     
  6. SlyPokerDog

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    I would be pissed if KP wasn't testing the trade waters of a good majority of our players. Not that I'm anxious to trade them but you never know if a great deal is going to fall into your lap if you don't ask.

    Part of KP's job is to trade players. The Yahoo article is not a big deal.
     
  7. e_blazer

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    Okay. While I don't have any problems with people having strong opinions about what they think needs to be done to improve the team, I do think that there should be a bit more caution used in assuming that "board wisdom" exceeds the opinions of the paid professionals on the Blazers' management team. All any of us have to go on is what we see in the games...and truth be told, we don't often see anywhere near as much as the pros who spend hours reviewing and dissecting game video. We also don't see practices where various combinations of players are actually played in various roles so that real information is gained as to which players work best together. All in all, I'd say most of the things expressed here, including my own, are based on way too little information and way too much opinion. It's a message board, so you expect to see this type of thing, but a bit more humility and respect, IMO, would be a good thing.
     
  8. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I know..."testing the waters" is what he gets paid for. He should always be looking for ways to improve the team -- especially in light of the fact the teams needs improving.
     
  9. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I don't claim to be any kind of expert, but I do recognize where the Blazers seem to be most deficient. To me that is perimeter defense and consistent outside shooting to help space the floor (two areas we were considerably better at a year ago IMO) To that end I think people are talking about the kinds of players who would help shore up those deficiencies, who's best and who would be the most complimentary I have no idea, but for people to see these things and wonder about who would help the team isn't being arrogant or disrespectful, it's just discussion and bouncing ideas off of other people.
     
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    you mean like when the entire board was screaming to draft blair? :devilwink:
     
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    You mean 18 pts and 11 rebounds vs Boston Dejuan Blair? :ghoti:

    The 2nd round of the draft has been completely frustrating to me since KP became GM. Not like it wasn't frustrating before with Nash, (where I would be frustrated, period). Does Mario Chalmers ring a bell?
     
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    That you believe everything you read.
     
  13. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Never heard of him :devilwink: is he as good as Taurean Green?
     
  14. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I did have a question mark in the title. :devilwink:
     
  15. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Sometimes, though, the message board is right (even with its limited information) and management is wrong.

    Draft Chris Paul over Webster.
    Start Aldridge over Magloire.
    Start Pippen at PG (and Damon at the far end of the bench).
    Use Zach at PF and Sheed at C.
    Don't pay big money to Theo Ratliff.
    Zach and Rahim can't co-exist.
    Portland can't "get out and run" with Nate as coach.
    Take a flyer on drafting DeJuan Blair.

    These were all pretty popular themes on the board that ran counter to what management seemed to think (or at least say publicly). But time proved us right.

    Now you can also find a bunch of examples where the fans here are wrong (Draft the Stache!). I'm not saying we're always right.

    But just given these examples off the top of my head, it's pretty clear to me that it's not arrogant to second-guess management even with our limited knowledge. They see a lot of things we don't, but I think sometimes we see some things they don't too.
     
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    No, because Taurean Green is going to bring some W's!:tsktsk:
     
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    Just to be clear, Nik, I wouldn't inlcude you in the "arrogant" category and I don't have any problems with your posts. As you say, this board is intended as a place to share ideas about how to improve the team. Scrolling back through this thread, it should be pretty obvious where my criticism was aimed.
     
  18. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Okie doke, no biggie ... I guess I just didn't really catch anybody being all that arrogant.
     
  19. hasoos

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    Yea, its so obvious, that he asked you to clarify!:drumroll:
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I dunno...shouldn't the Blazers test Miller's worth on the court before testing his worth on the market?

    Honestly, I don't understand this "It's not working out" idea. It hasn't really been tried yet. Maybe it won't work out. But if it's not even tried, I'd say it's the coach who "isn't working out."
     

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