Who would you rather have on your team?? Ron Artest or Shawn Marion. For this comparision, just compare the stuff on the court. Who is the better player. I know most would pick Marion just due to the fact that Artest is a head case off the court, but for this comparision, dont let that be a factor. I'll post mine later.
I would definitely pick Marion because he has a much more consistent game when it comes to scoring. He always manages to score 20+ pts as much as he can whereas Artest gets only 15 at times. When it comes to rebs, Marion has the big time edge since he has the PF position where Artest has SF which leaves him outside. Artest plays like a SG though.
I would pick Marion because he does a bit more on the offensive side. He avgs. 20 ppg and still can defend and rebound the ball well. Artest is a good defender, but i pick marion for the offensive edge
Marion can score, pass, create off the dribble and play some amazing defense. Artest can do most of that, too but the difference is Marion can play at any style and he can be a big part of the offense or a little part. It really doesn't matter for Marion because he won't complain and he'll always get his numbers and make a difference out there. It's hard to keep him out of a game.
Marion is very vesatile and that's why I pick him over Artest. Artest is a great defender, but Marion's overall ability is just better than Ron Artest's.Though I hate the way Marion shoots.
Marion. He is one of the best rebounders in the league despite being 6'7" or 6'8", one of the most athletic players in the league, good defender. Plus, NO BAGGAGE.
Marion Better defender. The guy guards player 5 inches taller than him and shuts them down. He is also a better inside scorer with a comparable jumpshot. More athletic.
I'd probably take marion on my team. However Marion is not a guy who can lead a team, most of his points come off spot up shots fast break points and alley oop dunks. Never have i seen the suns give the ball to marion and orders been given for them to clear out. I've heard that around 60% of his shots are assisted on. Most of his stats seem to come from the envioronment he's in, not actually from him. Artest is the better offensive player, he doesn't need to be assisted on shots like marion is. He's a baest in the post when he actually decides to go there [ ihate him taking perimeter shots]. Both of their defenses own.However his a nut case who would destroy team chemistry.And dogma, Marion cannot guard odom who's 4 inches taller :biggrin:
Marion. Marion is the better defender, a good scorer in the paint, versatile, and he has a pretty nice J
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clutch_Melo_061 @ Apr 28 2006, 06:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd probably take marion on my team. However Marion is not a guy who can lead a team, most of his points come off spot up shots fast break points and alley oop dunks. Never have i seen the suns give the ball to marion and orders been given for them to clear out. I've heard that around 60% of his shots are assisted on. Most of his stats seem to come from the envioronment he's in, not actually from him. Artest is the better offensive player, he doesn't need to be assisted on shots like marion is. He's a baest in the post when he actually decides to go there [ ihate him taking perimeter shots]. Both of their defenses own.However his a nut case who would destroy team chemistry.</div>Thank you Clutch... save me from stating why Artest is better offensive. However to add, if he played all season you would see the results of his ppg and other offensive stats better than marion. This is why marion gets the pick. "He no play all season"the dumb attitude is a reason also.
Better offensivly than Marion? Are you kidding me? Artest shoots under 40% not to mention overall for averaging nearly 40 minutes per game has a laughable effciency rating.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clutch_Melo_061 @ Apr 28 2006, 05:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd probably take marion on my team. However Marion is not a guy who can lead a team, most of his points come off spot up shots fast break points and alley oop dunks. Never have i seen the suns give the ball to marion and orders been given for them to clear out. I've heard that around 60% of his shots are assisted on. Most of his stats seem to come from the envioronment he's in, not actually from him. Artest is the better offensive player, he doesn't need to be assisted on shots like marion is. He's a baest in the post when he actually decides to go there [ ihate him taking perimeter shots]. Both of their defenses own.However his a nut case who would destroy team chemistry.And dogma, Marion cannot guard odom who's 4 inches taller :biggrin:</div>yeah, Lamar is really tearing him apart. I'm a bit confused, but i like Lamar, so it's all good. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Apr 28 2006, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Better offensivly than Marion? Are you kidding me? Artest shoots under 40% not to mention overall for averaging nearly 40 minutes per game has a laughable effciency rating.</div>Artest is a better offensive player. He can create for himself, he has a good post up game, and a decent shot. stop looking at stats so much, it's getting old. How about you come up with your own conclusions? Marion is breast fed by Nash on offense. All his points come off of Nash's penetration-and-kicks or on fast breaks.I just looked it up and a whopping 74% of Marion's shots were assisted.
I'd take Marion. Marion is the better shotblocker, he can play post and perimeter defense exceptionally well. He is so athletic, he can shoot the ball just as well as Artest, he is more of a slasher I would say, he is a offensive phenom. He can drive in for the dunk. Last year, he didnt get many looks but still got 20 ppg, he creates for himself, he is a freak rebounder too, especially for his size.
NBA Dogmatist, did you watch the Suns at all last year?Shawn Marion was hardly ever in the mix from Nash. He had to score the majority of his points by himself and create his own shots. That is something that the guy is really good at because of his good shooting skills and pure athletic ability. It doesnt mean that he is breast fed by nash this year because he is now the #1 option from Nash. And plus, the Nash feed is just a part of the Suns offense. He could fit in fine in any half court offense where he had to create by himself. He did that before Nash and D'Antoni came to town.
First of all, we are not talking about the suns from last year.Secondly, if you think Marion creates his shot the majority of the time, you're living in a fantasy world. like i said before, <u>74%</u> of Marion's FGM were assisted.
Thats because The Suns' offense relies on passing. Thats how they move the ball. That stat doesnt show anything.
