We need a Pau Gasol deal.

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Our main (healthy) tradable assets:

    Miller
    Bayless
    Webster
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    Pendergraph
    Cunningham

    We aren't going to land an impact big.
     
  2. Buzz Killington

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    If we make a move, the only good move would be a consolidation move and we would lose either Rudy or Batum in the process.
     
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    That is U.G.L.Y.
     
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    because.. KP got that deal before anyone knew Roy would be AS good as he is.. thats the point.. Roy was not a top 5 talent in the league when KP did that deal. So unless its all of the sudden Draft day and KP can pritch slap another person cause he can see the talent that other gm's cant... :dunno:
     
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    Your trade machine is broken kingspeed.
     
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    Dirk Nowitzki
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    Dwight Howard

    There's what, 13 players I would take over Roy. I'm just curious, what's your top 5 in the NBA? Because Bryant, James, Wade and Paul are probably the top 4 players in the NBA, and I'd take any other of those 9 guys over Roy, too. Top 15 talent...probably, but not top 5.
     
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    Oh, and you guys really don't have much for trade assets to land a Gasol type deal, you also have the issue of no team willing to do that type of a deal. The main reason the Lakers landed is because Heisley had the team up for a fire sale at that point in time because he was trying to sell it and wanted to shed all his long and expensive contracts.
     
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    The ones in bold I would not take over Roy. IMO.
     
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    Pierce and KG are understandable. However, I'd absolutely take Durant over Roy. He's got a higher ceiling than Roy on both ends of the court due to his length and freakish skill set. Beyond that, he's already a better scorer and rebounder.

    The only reason I wouldn't take Timmy D over Roy is because of the age, but we're not necessarily talking about potential, we're talking top players. Because of that, I take Duncan. He commands a double team down in the post, making life easier for everyone else around, and he's also dominant on the defensive end. His ability to pass out of the post and out of the double are also very underrated.

    Chris Bosh is a beast. He's got range out to 20ft or so, and that's damn impressive for a PF/C, allowing him to stretch the defense a bit and soften up the middle. He's also skilled enough as a ball handler to take opposing PFs off the dribble. He's not as good of a scorer as Roy is, but he's great on the glass and continues to develop on the defensive end. Plus he's a big...and if I can have a multi-talented big or a SG, I'm taking the big.

    Deron Williams is the 2nd best PG in the league, is a beast in the post because of his size, plus he's got a good outside game. Much like a big, I'll take a top-flight PG over most scoring SGs.

    And Dirk, I hate him, but he's the best scoring big in the NBA. He can take you in the post and he can stretch the defense better than most guards. He can also take his man off the dribble and is a much improved rebounder and defender.
     
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    Regardless of age IMO TD is not the same player he once was.. thats why I have Roy ahead of him.. not overall career wise cause TD is one of the best if not the best PF of all time. Bosh is having a good year on the glass I'll give you that. But a lot of his rebounds are almost by default cause well Barnani isnt exactly a monster. Durant is a wonderful scorer and is rebounding finally. Lets see him do it when it counts or lead his team and then we'll see, but for now I'll take Roy over him. I just cant put Williams ahead of him sorry. Dirk I'm sorry but "improved" defender and Rebounder still doesnt make him adequate in that department IMO. But yes best scoring big I'll agree. Last year I had Melo behind Roy overall but Melo has def passed him this year.
     
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    We should make a run at Bosh, the Raps offseason moves are not working and they are rumored to want to get value for Bosh before he bolts as a free agent. I would trade Travis, Batum, Rudy, Bayless, our pick and take back a bad contract of theirs.

    Long term I'm thinking Oden might be best as a 25 min per game player. He has foul trouble and obviously injury issues. Limiting his minutes could benefit his health, and it would allow him to stay active on defense. He would be perfect in a 3 man big rotation with Lamarcus and Bosh getting the majority of the minutes.
     
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    Gasol deals only happen when Mr. Stern wants them to happen.
     
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    Blazer_Hippie Batum getting ballsy!

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    What other Pau Gasol deals have there been besides "The" Pau Gasol deal?
     
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    Neither did the Lakers.

    By the way, has Chris Wallace been given his championship ring yet?
     
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    What team doesn't? That is like saying everyone in the state of Oregon needs to win the lottery.

    Well, no kidding? Great post bi-po.
     
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    The Pippen Deal.
    The Steve Smith Deal.
    The Barkley Deal (Philly -> Phoenix)
    The Garnett Deal (yes, Jefferson's a nice player, but there's a reason the Celts have a championship and the Wolves have the worst record in the league)

    Yes, the Gasol trade was pretty glaring - but every day Marc Gasol plays, it looks less one-sided.
     
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    Elton Brand!

    I was thinking Jamison too (and have been for a while) - and now Abe Pollin has died, they might be more ready to blow everything up. But he's not a SF - never has been, as far as I know.
     
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    Um, the Garnett deal should not be on this list. Are you comparing Jefferson to Kwame? lol not even close.
     
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    Bullshit if it shouldn't. A couple of scrubs and Bostons version of Zbo for KG? Are you kidding me?
     
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    There's a big difference in a big salary dump, which is what the Gasol deal was, and trading a guy who wanted out for young prospects, even if most didn't pan out.
     

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