<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe had one incredible game and suddenly he's the best player ever.</div>No, but he was valuable to the Lakers and that's why he was one of the candidates. And it wasn't just one game. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>and he had that game vs raptors... Not saying it still waseasy. But he did it vs nobodys</div>He put 62 against Mavs, had games over 40 pts, I wouldn't call those teams nobodies. Sounds like I'm sticking up for Kobe but I don't get why your downplaying his year.
Kobe had one incredible game?<ul>[*]Second-most points scored in a regular season game in NBA history: 81 (January 22, 2006).[*]One of only two players in NBA history to score 80 points in a single game (the other is Wilt Chamberlain).[*]One of only three players in NBA history to score 45-plus points per game for 4 consecutive games (the others are Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain), and the first to accomplish it since Chamberlain, who did it in November of 1964.[*]Finished the month of January 2006 with a 13-game average of 43.4 points per game, the eighth highest in NBA history with the top seven all belonging to Chamberlain.[*]Finished the month of April 2006 with an 8-game average of 41.6 points per game, the third time he's averaged over 40 a game per month in his career; only Wilt and Kobe have done it more than once[*]Became the first player ever to outscore the opposing team through three quarters since the advent of the 24-second shot clock after scoring 62 points in three quarters of play on December 20, 2005 vs. the Dallas Mavericks.[*]Scored 55 in one half (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors), matched the single-game high of the NBA's all-time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar[*]eleven 50-point games in his career and 6 this season, both most among active players[*]35.4 PPG average is highest since Michael Jordan's 37.1 PPG average in 1987[*]2,832-point season, 7th highest scoring mark of all-time[*]averaging the most PPG in the 4th quarter, of all time[*]Scored 30 in one quarter (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks), a Lakers' franchise record[*]Scored 40+ points in 27 games, a Lakers' franchise record[*]Scored 30+ points in 56 games, a Lakers' franchise record[*]Scored 20+ points in 78 games (out of 80), a Lakers' franchise record[*]18 field goals made in a half (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors), Lakers' franchise record[*]28 field goals attempted in a half (tied with Elgin Baylor; 2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors), Lakers' franchise record[*]23 free throws made in a game (twice, most recently on January 31, 2006 vs. New York Knicks), Lakers' franchise record[*]62 consecutive free throws (January 11?22, 2006), Lakers' franchise record[*]7 three pointers without a miss (January 6, 2006 vs. Philadelphia 76ers), Lakers' franchise record[*]6 steals in a half (tied with 3 players; February 13, 2006 vs. Utah Jazz), Lakers' franchise record[*]Most free throws made, one quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 5 players).[*]Most free throws attempted, one quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 6 players).[*]Greatest percentage of own team's point total (66.4% of the Lakers' 122 points vs. Toronto Raptors on January 22, 2006)[*]Greatest percentage of both teams' combined point total (35.8% of the Lakers' and Raptors' 226 points on January 22, 2006)[*]youngest to reach 15,000 points (27 years, 136 days), set January 6, 2006 vs. the Philadelphia 76ers.[*]youngest to reach 16,000 points (27 years, 192 days), set March 3, 2006 vs. the Golden State Warriors.[/list]
With Nash taking the 2nd MVP, he's a interesting quote from a Mavs board:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Say what you want, when he is in a rocking chair and half the young yahoos voting never saw him play, they will see this list of 2 time league MVP'suncan, Karl Malone, Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Moses Malone,Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell... Steve Nash.</div>I must say, Nash does not fit in with that group at all. In addition, as a Mavs I still don't get how he's the MVP when he's doing the same stuff he did in Dallas really, and he got zero pub compared to what he's doing with Suns. Honestly what has Suns done that Dallas hasn't?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BuLLzDoMaIn @ Apr 26 2006, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well i dont mean Bums as in real Bum players... But yea..And why should kobe get MVP cause he scored 81 points?Lebron stats are better then kobes</div> The Suns were hardly a bum team and people always forget about Shawn Marion who was one of the most effcient players in the NBA yet again (21/12/2/2/1 a game for gods sake). I don't care how many games the Suns win, they are a regular season team that will lose in the West again, no team losses an MVP type player (Dallas) and doesn't miss a step, I have a hard time with this guy have more MVP's than Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant COMBINED! This is ridiculous.
Alright, let's apply the Nash Rule to all players who come to the team and magically make them better (or get healthy and make them better)...2004 Bulls - 23 wins2005 Bulls w/ Gordon - 47 wins and playoffsGordon: MVP!2003 Nuggets - 17 wins2004 Nuggets w/ Melo - 43 wins and playoffsMelo: MVP!2001 Pistons - 32 wins2002 Pistons w/ Cliff Robinson - 50 wins, first in Central DivisionCliff: MVP!1999 Pacers - 33 wins2000 Pacers w/ healthy Miller - 56 wins, first in Central DivisionReggie: MVP!2003 Grizzlies - 28 wins2004 Grizzlies w/ Posey - 50 wins, playoffsPosey: MVP!Don't know how much more I can stress the fact that just because a player makes an impact on a team missing that vital piece, it doesn't mean they are the MVP of the league, let alone a candidate.
Please Laker fans dont post or rip on Nash it all. He definately deserves this one. The League made the right choice.First of all, the Lakers have the 7th seed, the Suns have the 2nd seed. The average wins of people who win MVP, I think is 62. Pheonix came pretty close, they won 54. The Lakers won 45 games and alot of that can be credited to Phil Jackson, not Kobe.Steve Nash makes his teammates around him better and involves them alot more than Kobe. Kobe just takes alot of shots to help flow the Laker offense. The MVP stands for Most Valuable Player, which I think refers to how valuable you are to your team. Nash is more valuable, I would think because he involves his teammates and gets them into the game and he can also score at will. He shoots over .500 percent which indicates that he could score more if he wanted to but instead he chooses to run the best offense in the League. And you ask why? Steve Nash is the answer. He draws the defense in, getting his teammates open looks which they can make. Thats why everyone loves playing int he Suns offense, everyone that shoots could make a living in that offense. Look at Tim Thomas, he was a scrub anywhere else, now he gets open looks from Nash and he is scoring damn near 30 points some times. And look at the Suns offense that they had to work with. If you looked at that on paper, they would be an average offense. Nash's two prime targets were Shawn Marion and Raja Bell. Pffh. That doesnt scream best offense to me. So because of all those points, Laker fanslease stop ripping on Nash for winning this one because he definately deserved it.
Steve Nash is a PG, no sh*t he will make his teammates look better.What happens next year when nash averages 10-11 apg and amare comes back and they win 60+ games...is he gona win a 3rd straight mvp? The award will become an even bigger joke if nash wins another after this.
No probably not. It is unheard of to win MVP 3 times in a row unless you are Jordan. And Nash isnt MJ. The award will reach a fresh face next year. But really, Nash deserved it this year. Id like to see where you had the Suns at preseason. If you say the 2nd seed you'd be lying.
I don't care where the Suns were predicted. Steve Nash winning MVP's is a joke and this second MVP is making the MVP look like a joke. I didn't see Payton or Kidd winning MVP's.
Lebron, Kobe, Dirk, Billups, and Brand are all more deserving than Nash. I don't like Kobe but I realize his importance to the lakers. This MVP decision is a joke.
Real Deal did not spell it out, he just listed a bunch of new players on teams that played well the next year. Duh. I guess Pat Burke should be the MVP too using Real Deal's philosophy. Its because Nash makes his teammates better and runs the best offense in the League when that offense is average on paper. Also he is a dominant scorer.
I don't think there are questions on Nash's offense but his defense. it is pitiful for someone that can't defend anyone to win MVP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 26 2006, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think there are questions on Nash's offense but his defense. it is pitiful for someone that can't defend anyone to win MVP.</div>So I guess Allen Iverson shouldnt have won MVP either. Honestly, I dont think defense matters much in MVP consideration. I think it is more how you help your team offensively not defensively.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 26 2006, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think there are questions on Nash's offense but his defense. it is pitiful for someone that can't defend anyone to win MVP.</div>This coming from someone who roots for Dirk NowitzkiHere's one thing we should realize. Whoever wins MVP is determined by what you think MVP is. If you think MVP is Best Player, then Kobe wins it by far. No one else gets a vote. If you think MVP is the best player on a good team, it's LeBron. If you think the MVP is for the player who means most to his team, it's Kobe Bryant. However, if you think the MVP is the player who means the most to a good team, it's Steve Nash. If you haven't realized that the latter is the general consensus of NBA voters and fans, then somethings wrong with you.
