How Student Debt Creates a Generation of Mama's Boys

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ration-of-mummys-boys-1836559.html#mainColumn

I am seeing more and more of this to be honest...a little frightening.

Its britain though....but still.

 

that was me until about 4 months ago.

 

Its actually a much better solution than going into debt (believe me, I know). right out of college, you usually make such low money and try to live big...then shit crashes on ya.

 

I don't know why, but the idea of coming back to Oregon after college was unappealing. I wanted to experience something new. The idea of moving back in with my mother was anathema to me. I didn't make any money after college, worked a lot of hours, lived in shitholes with other poor grads, ate ramen almost every night and loved every minute of it.

 

NO!!!!! I have two sons (6,10) and I cringe at the thought of them still being at home at 30.

 

Meh, it depends how the child is reared, it has nothing to do with college loans.

 

Living with your parents until you get back on your feet doesn't make your a mommy's boy. It is when they become attached , and start fapping to WoW porn.

Of course, the amount of income greatly effects how you cope with the debt, but if you are brought up to be dependent on people, you'll obviously bounce back to your parents and stick with them instead of looking for a new job, or borrowing money from your family (at least that way you don't have fucked up agreement with the bank).

 

I bet more girls just get money from their parents ("Daddy's girl") and they pay for their living expenses. For men, that just doesn't really happen.

 

you save so much living at home (I guess, I've been living on my own since college)....but the expenses even if you live cheaply are pretty crazy. Imagine having an extra 20k a year or so just for fucking around with since you chose to live at home. Food, rent, laundry, all the other crap taken care of, the only thing you give up is being able to come home either drunk/with women.


That being said, its not worth it.

 

Yeah, I'm aware but I guess I'm lucky.

 

A lot more asians live at home, at least it was that way in my early 20s.....seemed almost normal for my asian friends, but non-asian friends lived on their own.

 

They get married to slightly older men who are already successful?

 

Because the article assumes that most people are college graduates. Actually, most people are poor. The government supports young women much more readily than young men. Just get pregnant. So maybe a fifth of young women are on welfare while no young men are. Thus more young men live with their welfare queen mothers than do young women.

 

And this was in what year(s)? There is a VAST difference between being a young grad with no money in say 1964 or 1982 then now. I mean it's hard to even compare. Student loans are so much larger then they were then adjusted for inflation, as is the price of housing in particular. The boomer method: Go to school, live cheap for awhile, promote and pay everything off and become wealthy just doesn't work now. America is on the decline with a possible "Waterfall event" on the horizon economically.

You just can't compare America from 1950 to 2000 to any other time or period anywhere in the world. A moron could do well in those circumstances (as is evidence by my rich moronic baby boomer relatives). Now you have to be saavy in the extreme, reasonably well off and just plain lucky to be doing well right now if you are 34 or under. America was THE world power from 1945 to 2005ish. For much of that period we had the majority of the worlds gold which allowed us to become the world's reserve currency and therefore export inflation, we had large domestic oil reserves, an unmatched manufacturing base and we were the worlds largest creditor.

We now rely on foreign oil, are the biggest debtor nation IN WORLD HISTORY, our manufacturing base is GONE and our status as the world reserve currency is under serious threat.

There is simply no comparison for those in their mid fourties or older compared to todays youth. They live in different worlds.

P.S. lest you think I am a generation-ist, I think the Boomers are getting fleeced right now on a scale not seen since the crash of 1929.

 

While I agree that young women are more supported by the system, I think the answer lies in greater education among females and a greater desire to succeed. Young women can see a comparatively bright future where they might earn more then their mothers. Young men have NO CHANCE of earning more then their fathers and have a built in failure to surpass feeling. Young men are probably 10x more likely to be addicted to time and soul sucking videogames that are literally crippling our young men (they and their parents are responsible for this). Finally, young women can marry rich old men and therefore not need to live at home.

 

A really key point in that article is that it's set in the UK. Even with the real estate tumble, housing prices there are astronomical.

They hook up with awesome Americans like me!

Anyway, I've had a number of guy friends from England come and stay over, and I'm always a little shocked initially at how effeminate they are. I mean, not in personalities. I've known some really tough limeys. But jesus, every one of them left three kinds of styling gel in the bathroom, 4 types of cologne, wore a new clean pair of $50 jeans and stereotypical euro dark designer turtleneck every day, and was sporting a $200 watch. They all were these whispy skinny guys with Rudy Fernandez haircuts who looked like they just jumped out of a fucking Abercrombe ad. The suitcases they show up with are bigger than a Volkswagon. "Is that guy gay?" a fellow Idahoan whispers to me. "Nah, he's English," I reply.

It's no wonder John Amaechi was able to keep it under wraps as long as he did in Utah. "English" totally fucks up the gay-dar.

 

Sorry to derail this thread, but my rant got me thinking about gender roles in general on both sides of the pond. I think it boils down to the English being much less hung up on masculine/feminine. The men are less "macho," and the women are less "girly." It's just a more androgynous culture--at least the younger generations.

 

not just england, more of the world is like that i bet.