Donaghy ESPN interview

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  1. STOMP

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    right. Because if they'd fouled out Shaq (instead of Sabas) everything would have remained in a vacuum and the Lakers would have still won right? I'm sure Portland would have still been collapsing into the paint to help Sheed and Grant guard Horry (like they did Shaq) leaving Shaw open on the perimeter. Good point

    :rolleyes2:

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  2. Toko

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    That's right folks, it's all rigged. You might stop watching since the blazers have zero chance at winning a championship.

    Lakers's numbah 16, coming up:pimp:
     
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    You are a piece of shit Toko
     
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    DaRizzle BLAKER

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    explain the bolded part of my previous post (60) not being true...rationally
     
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    The refs are human. Humans are susceptible to biases and tendencies, and in this case in dealing with certain players and plays, in both positive and negative ways in terms of calls going for or against players. This is never going to change in any facet of life. Politics, business, professional sports... Greed and the power to wield authority is never gonna go away. Rules are never followed to a T. It's too bad its so blatant in the NBA though, and absolutely nothing is done about it...

    Like it would matter anyways
     
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    Not really... the NBA doesn't make stats available on individual ref calls... you can only see the whole game. Another ref could very well be calling the fouls. It appears at times that after a certain point in a game that a lot of weird calls are made for one team or another to even that stats. I have seen it time and time again... the game is over and the calls suddenly change and the team that is behind parades to the line.
     
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    Yeah I was only half way through that article when I posted that link. I was about to post that exact thing after having finished the article.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Repped for truth.
     
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    rationally??? No problem. If an officiating staff knows it can make all the 4th quarter calls (and no calls) in one teams favor like the game in question, they know it's highly likely that they can obtain their boss's desired results. It's not like those Lakers were without talent and Sabas had proven to be the only Blazer with the size to slow Shaq down. Removing AS from the game via ridiculous calls and allowing Shaq to maul any Blazer who dared enter the paint on the other end = a landslide of Laker advantages that they're very likely to capitalize on... have you ever seen a pro shooting open jumpers? Controlling the paint seems to be most every coach's recipe for winning hoops... allowing one side a decided advantage there seems a rational way to manipulate the results.

    now without being homer in the face of all these revelations, please address your rational that I was making fun of in my previous post :)

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    Are you certain we would've beaten the Pacers? They were a very good team.
     
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    That non-call was fucking ridiculous. That non-call decided the game. Why do that to Steve Smith? A class act?
     
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    And missed free throws. Sheed missed two and then Shaq made two. You gotta make them when the refs give em to you.
     
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    You know, though, now we know why Sheed got techs all the time. He was pissed at crooked officiating. I was soooooo pissed when Sheed got suspended for 7 games for yelling at Donaghy in the parking garage. To me, what two men do after work off the court shouldn't have resulted in any suspension, let alone for SEVEN games. I was furious.
     
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    Come on now, just because I don't suck blazer fans collective dick like you do is no reason to insult me.

    The fact of the matter is, if a team has a 17 point lead in game 7 of the finals and somehow manages to lose it, that team did not deserve to win.

    The 2000 jailblazers were simply chokers.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Someone named BobWhitsittBestGM led the ESPN board in outrage. Most of the Sheed haters temporarily took Sheed's side. It was a splendid couple of weeks. Then all those turncoats reverted to their little snitty jealousies and defected to BBB. You know who you are.

    As for clankers in the big playoff game, the bad calls may have induced the paranoid cold shooting.
     
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    haha you have a serious hard on for the blazers man, you should just stop fighting it and become a fan now. Unless you really want to pretend to like the lakers forever.
     
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    I will admin I have never seen the 4th querter of 'that' game 7... but I have seen plenty of similar cases like... say with the Bulls in the playoffs where they would get on a roll and the refs would just go with it. You knew that during that roll one team was going to get a call every time they missed a shot and the other team was going to get nothing. With the crowd cheering and all the excitment no one will question it. My guess is that 4th quarter was like that. Yeah I bet the Blazer missed shots (some where they were hacked) and the Lakers rolled but if the refs helped out in even a few calls... that is the average winning margin right there. Hell... half the home games seem that way now. You can't be near as aggressive on the road.

    The funny thing is though... when you look at the numbers... you can't see anything to support that. I looked a few years back... and saw nothing. I think it may be the evening out that you see at end of quarters and the end of the game any skewing if it is happening.

    A game in recent memory where I thought something crazy going on was the first playoff game last year with the Rockets... within a few minutes of the game (even before we were blown out) I told my wife that there was no way we would win with the way the game was being called. (Touch fouls or Yao hitting Oden and Oden being called for a foul on one end and nothing on the other) It only took a few minutes of crazy calls before the game was decided... and yeah it didn't help that the Rockets couldn't miss.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Rasheed really was a piece of work. In terms of players that I spent time around, I have never heard so many teammates love a player more than Sheed. He truly was beloved by everyone on the team that I talked to.

    With that said, I've never seen a player with a worse attitude towards the refs or the media. I mean, just a really nasty, awful, conceited, and hateful attitude towards the media. And in some cases I would say it was warranted. The things I saw while in the locker room were very distasteful towards Sheed. I saw Canzano attempt to bait him on multiple occasions, and I'm talking obvious trolling/baiting.

    The really sad thing was that he was totally cool with black reporters. He'd give them a hug and talk to them like nothing was wrong, but if you were a white guy, he wouldn't give you the time of day. I once said "good game Sheed" in the locker room and he walked by like I wasn't even there. No other player would do that. I had great working relationships with all the other players on the team. I felt sorry for Sheed. He truly was embattled in his final couple years here. I thought it was funny that he chose Geoffrey C. Arnold to do that big interview with for the Oregonian, and Arnold hung him out to dry. Made him look like a racist.

    Sheed will probably go down as one of the most misunderstood players in the history of the game.
     
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    Was Arnold wrong? You mentioned he treated people different based on the color of their skin...
     

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