Production from starters

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  1. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    I am of the philosophy that your starting 5 players are vital to a teams success. If you aren't getting enough production out of them you will struggle. A couple days ago I decided to see where Steve Blake stacked up in terms of lowest producing Starters in the league. It turns out he is the 13th lowest scorer among starters... And Martel at that point was 16th Martel has moved down teh list a bit into the mid 20's. I hadn't factored Joel though as he hasn't had many starts, but if he were added to the list he would be the lowest scoring Starter in the league.

    So we have 3 of the 25 lowest scoring starters in the league. That is not a recipe for success.
     
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    Memphis has 3 starters in the top 33. Portland has 1. I don't know if that means anything other than Memphis is watchable now.
     
  3. Tince

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    Where did Batum and Joel rank last season? We had a lot of success last year.
     
  4. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    At least Blake was 11ppg last year.

    And Batum didn't play as many minutes as Martell.
     
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    can you forward this to our over rated gm?
     
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    Remind me again what was so wrong with the three guard lineup?
     
  7. Schilly

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    Tince that is a great question. I think the one thing that helps with Batum was he only played 18mpg, and Blake scored 11ppg compared to 7 this season. Also Oden started 39 games and Joel 43.

    I think Joel and Martel are on par with Oden and Batum last season, But Blakes drop is significant. On top of that Roy and Aldridge have dropped this year as well.

    Last year our starters averaged 62.6ppg.

    This years starters with Joel in place of Greg they average 57.1
     
  8. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it would be better to forward it to the guy who calls the shots on PT.
     
  9. Schilly

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    I never said it wasn't. Of course it would be best if our worst player wasn't leading the team in starts and 3rd for minutes
     
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    no it means we need a starter at sf which means trade
     
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    Then what MIXUM? Who do you trade? Getting a SF that would make a large enough impact to make a significant enough impact this year would require trading too much, and then once Batum comes back you have 2 starting SF's. Batum if given the PT would be averaging 10ppg for us this season IMO.

    The only trade that makes sense IMO would be trading Blake for another warm body to help in the post, but I'm not convinced that what we could get would be much better than Pendergraph when he comes back.

    So do we trade Miller? Then we have rolled the dice on Bayless to be our PG and/or resigning Blake which at this point in time doesn't look like something I would feel comfortable in relying on.

    If you could trade Webster and Blake for a 3/4 then Maybe we could make a trade, but we aren't going to get a Butler or Wallace for that.
     
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    Looking at our PER rating last year we started our 1,2,5,7 and 8th rated PER players. this year 1,2,9,10,12
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Of those, only 1 is realistically upgradeable.

    We're going to have to have Joel there. I don't know if Cunningham is ready for minutes (although maybe he could take on a Batum role).

    that leaves Blankey.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Since Oden went down LMA is averaging 23/9.
     
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    Absolutely. It also indicates that we are in for a long season. The team is 14-11 with our easiest part of our schedule behind us. I think the team will win a total of 46 games this year due to the injuries and a few other issues that I believe are unresolved. 48 wins was the 8 seed last year.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Well he's 21/9 in the last 5 games. He's almost playing better than Roy.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Who is this "rookie" who started this thread?
     
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    Quick quiz: what team started three players who averaged:
    9.1
    8.4
    and 5.5 ppg?
     
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    Blake being one of them, for starters.
     
  20. Kaydow

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    I give up. The 2000-1 Lakers (NBA Champs) had

    Rick Fox 9.6
    Horace Grant 8.5
    Ron Harper 6.5

    Of course, they had Shaq & Kobe.

    Who is the team from your quiz?
     

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