Most likely Blazer to be traded as of today

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I can name a few only in Eastern conference, because I don't think we would trade him in the West. He would do really well in Chicago, Charlotte, Milwaukee, New York, Cleveland (especially if LJ walks), Orlando (since VC is playing SF, Fernandez could start at 2 and probably be the 3rd option).
     
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    How's he gonna get 20-25 a night in Orlando?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I guess I don't see him being THAT explosive (scorers like that can typically handle the ball and create their own shot at least a little) and he'll certainly never be that here.

    Regardless, I don't really care what he does for some other team, I only care about two things: 1) Does he fit here longterm? and 2) if he doesn't fit, does trading him allow you to fill a more pressing need? The first question seems somewhat in doubt since he plays the same position as Brandon, doesn't handle the ball well enough to play point guard and doesn't defend particularly well. The second? Well, it's just a hunch, but I suspect there are GMs out there that would like to add him to their roster and would be willing to part with good players to get him.

    I'm not saying trade him now, or even this year ... I'm just saying people should keep an open mind about Rudy.
     
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    Also, in regards to the 25+ scorer, keep in mind there are only 7 players averaging that mout in the entire league. Carmelo, Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Wade, Dirk, and Montae Ellis. I'm disregarding Ellis, because of playing on GS, but you really are going to put Rudy's scoring up with those guys? If so, we'd get mroe in return for Roy, might as well trade him.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Only one team out of many I've picked. Of course he wouldn't be a 25+ scorer in Orlando, with them already having a PG and SF that can score. Then they have a Center that is arguably the best in the league right now. I do know that he would fit in perfectly over there. They would be stacked from 1-5 (Nelson, Rudy, Carter, Lewis, and Howard). Seriously, they have perimeter covered) and Rudy would do very well dropping tres from outlets from either the penetrating Nelson or Howard dominating the inside).
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    For me, it would be a total "no brainer" to trade Rudy if he's creating a problem for Roy. I choose Roy over any player on our team and he's not even my favorite player. What Roy brings to this team is more valuable than just points. He's a great "role model", great with media, makes others better and doesn't care about his personal stats for the betterment of the team. I can see Rudy eventually getting "primadonna" on us.
     
  7. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    My bad: he's listed as 260 lbs. and 6'-8" a Power Forward nevertheless.
     
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    I'm in agreement with most all of your thoughts here! I think this is why I'm in favor of moving Blake/Rudy/Outlaw and landing "something along the lines of" Gortat (C) and Bass (PF). It consolidates our glut at guard and small forward.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Been a Brass fan ever since he was in Dallas. The dudes got game and he's a back to the basket type player. He also has a nice mid range shot. Not saying he's the answer, but I am a fan of him. Don't know Gortat too well, so I will keep that opinion to myself.
     
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    Early on in the season (opening weeks) I remember hearing of Rudy's concerns with his playing time - - and remembering back to the summer as we were trying to land the Turk...Rudy was vocal in the media overseas! He is easily capable of getting primadona on us, as you say.


    My only thought on Rudy - going back to my original thread, is that he stands the greatest shot at being part of a trade. I think of all of the players in my top four or five "likely to be traded" rankings, he's also has the most perceived (maybe "real") value to other teams!

    To New York: Rudy would be more valuable than Blake, Miller, or an injured Outlaw or Pryzbilla.

    To an Orlando team: same thing

    To a Washington team: same thing (and perhaps an opportunity to land Butler, since Rudy could swing between the 2 / 3 positions)

    When thinking on it, Rudy would be more valuable to most teams over Miller, Blake or Outlaw.

    Only Blake and Outlaw could have a higher value - and only to a team desiring their expiring contracts.

    This is why I think a combination of Rudy + Blake, or Rudy + Blake + Outlaw = most likely trade candidates.

    I don't see KP making a blockbuster deal during the season (meaning, a trade involving LMA for Bosh, for example).
     
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    I don't think Bass is that much of a back to the basket player. I don't know where a lot of the thought about Bass has stemmed from. He has seemed to transform over the last 2 years from a deecnt player to mythical levels amongst some Blazer fans, being the ideal banger backup we need, when he's not a back to the basket player, or all that great of a rebounder, really. I almost feel bad, because as the hyperbole of him as spread, I have grown to despise him as a player, simply because of this. He shoots a higher percentage of jumpers this season than Aldridge does. And rebounds worse than him. I don't know what it is. I'm not trying to completely put him down. He's a serviceable player. I just think people have an image of him, and that image doesn't jive with what he actually is as a player. And I think we'd get him here, and be severely disappointed in what he is.
     
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    I'm in agreement. He is a body at PF to play behind LMA and ahead of Pendergraph. And he's on my list ONLY because I'd like to land Gortat so we have a presence in the middle for the next 50 games...and to back up Oden in the years to come.

    I also am with the belief that we must consolidate our guard/small forward situation....or when everyone is healthy again - we'll be in the same pickle as we had at the start of this season!
     
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    From what we hear, he's highly thought of around the league - possibly a little overated. If there is a chance to package him with some expirings for the right guy - do it. The only way Rudy drops 40 is if Steve Nash is setting him up all night - he's not that dynamic of an offensive player. If he's not shooting 3's or throwing down alley-oops, how does he get his points? As a Blazer, 63% of his shot attemps have been 3's!! No pump fake/pull up 16' jumpers, not many floaters in the lane, just not many ways for him to score points (in the half court especially) And I think he's careless with the ball sometimes tyring to make the flashy play. But he can make it rain!
     
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    I'm probably sounding like a broken record (i.e. Gortat, Bass, etc.) but I just don't see other possibilities.

    Reading a past post about trading Blake and others for Memphis' Gasol was very unrealistic to me! And if we want to target a Center who is currently stuck behind Howard - and not playing enough...it is Gortat.

    Others may point at Okafur. I'm certain New Orleans would just love to rid themselves of this deadbeat. So why bother bringing him to Portland? A trade of Rudy + Blake + Outlaw might get us Okafur....but I'd rather obtain Gortat with Bass coming back our way.....any day of the week.
     
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    I can't see, having to get through Boston and Cleveland, Orlando being too keen on moving GOrtat. This offseason, I think they will, because they can get value for him, an dsign a cheaper replacement.

    As for other C options around the league, some deal based around Blake for Big Baby, perhaps? They are said to want a point behind Rondo. House is more of a 2. Tyson Chandler? Kwame. Turiaf? Troy Murphy? Jeff Foster? Gadzuric. Mark Blount. Tony Battie. Hilton Armstrong. Okafor. David Lee, if we took Jeffries. Nick Collison. Dalembert. Robin Lopez. Haywood.

    Some are unlikely. Some are unlikely to help. I'd prefer Pendergraph over quite a few. But they are bodies, likely available for somewhat cheap, that could all help in some form or another.
     
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    That is slim pick'ns in my book. Turiaf (but he's been injured, so how big of a help to us in unknown), Chandler is hurt now, Collison has ties to Nate?, and Lee would be a nice addition - but he's 6'-9." Keep the rest, unless Okafur didn't take much to get. Not sure which Lopez is which - but the one playing for NJ I'd covet! I think you are referring to the one playing with the Suns?
     
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    drexlersdad SABAS

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    i like how this thread is always relevant thanks to its title.
     
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    Well, always relevant....only means that it was "on point!"

    After tonights home loss to Philly (which I predicted - see Blazer/Philly prediction thread) it is because we need BIGS!

    So it is only relevant (still) because the facts remain the same - not because of the title per se.


    :dunno:


    I now predict (with all kind of hope!) that KP will awake from Christmas Holidays and make something happen.
     
  20. EGame

    EGame "You're the only one of these fools I trust"

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    Trade Bayless hs sucks now!
     

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