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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    We seem to have gone sideways at some point. You seem to be taking my criticism of KP awfully personally.
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that's cuz I'm KP.

    I guess my question for you is whether or not you've feel KP's earned the money he's made running the Blazers. Your original post says "It's time for KP to earn his money."

    My question is whether or not you really feel this way. KP turned this organization around from shit. And if you really feel he hasn't earned his money to date, my opinion is to shit on you. Nothing personal, but do you really think KP hasn't earned his money to date, YES or NO????
     
  3. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Happy New Year, Giants!

    <hiccup>

    Pritchard sucks!!
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    I agree. So does jlprk!!!
     
  5. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Thank you for your request. First, I request that you illustrate a representative sample of trades that had no secrecy. Please show links to witnesses who say that no one witnessed it. Then I will comply with the written paperwork you require in triplicate.

    That's how they act in your country, eh? Here, they say that's just your take on it, matey.

    You say you want it to make sense, and that is the first step toward your dawn of understanding. Take my hand and I'll help you through the mist. In an efficient market, commodities are priced using concepts of scarcity and demand. But in a conversation, one negotiator can push the buttons of another and get a hurried, or even panicked, price. Maybe the owner is having a cash call that month (frequent to the Sonics owners, which is why they sold) and a cash infusion would alleviate the GM's current fiscal unpopularity with the boss. Maybe the GM wants to start his vacation and doesn't wait for some initial offers to get whittled down into counter-offers and counter-counter-offers. He just wants to finish the process so his wife won't yell at him about delaying the vacation. I can imagine more scenarios, and if you use your imagination you can too. Let's say someone truncates a post because he's going to have a drink at midnight for New Year's. It can happen. There are bargains in this inefficient world.

    You had me fooled. I thought you moderators post this much to keep threads alive and the hits just keep rolling in.

    The two are not incompatible, in fact, the former leads to the latter. The latter depends on the former. Apparently you want our Chief Negotiator to lack negotiating skill. Happy New Year!
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Links. Witnesses.

    Witnesses. Links. Witness some more. Nobody understands the gibberish you typed, especially on NYE.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    So, no examples, then? Fair enough.

    You're being vague here. Which two GMs are not incompatible? You just said "the two."

    Clearly, compatibility is an important thing to you. I think the real compatibility issue here is between you and Kevin Pritchard. Maybe a nice retreat would get you guys on good terms?

    I want him to have negotiating skill, which means being good at negotiating with other professionals who are primarily interested in getting themselves the best deal, rather than teaching each other about their innermost feelings. In such a case, there doesn't need to be personal compatibility.

    Merry New Year to you, too!
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    And Fez jumps in with ALL the answers!!!
     
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    Holy Shit...

    Dumbasses.
     
  12. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Sounds like Agent double-O Zero is taking his name a little too seriously. Hmmm, I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess chemsitry isn't so hot in that locker room.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You know it's odd, I saw a baboon at the zoo that settled his argument with another baboon this way. Funny stuff.
     
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    drexlersdad SABAS

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    wowsa that is GANGSTA!

    jcritt is a damn thug.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I'm interested to see how the team and Stern react to this news. If it gets the Wizards out of Arenas' monstrous contract, then they would probably be less likely to unload Butler or Jamison for cheap (or at all).
     
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    1. Do not make the mistake of thinking Gilbert Arenas is the player he was a few years ago. He is not. I have seen him play about 6 times this year, and he only had one good game out of those, and even then he didn't look right.

    2. Jamison would be a great addition although older. I believe he can also play SF.

    3. I also love Caron Butlers game. I just think he needs a new start. I don't buy into the injury problems, he has been the only guy to play all the games the last few seasons, even when the team was getting it's teeth kicked in. He plays hurt if he has to.
     
  17. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Are there 'morality' clauses in NBA contracts? As best I can recall the CBA doesn't allow teams to void a player's contract.

    I doubt anybody is thinking of Arenas at all, but either one of Butler or Jamison (for the right price) would probably be a nice addition. Jamison would be a short term rental, but he can still ball. However, Butler would be the real prize in my opinion; I've heard a ton of his problems have to do with him being frozen out by Gil this season, and after a very rough start in November he's been steadily getting better in the past 10 or 15 games.
     
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    Yep, but if a player goes to jail, an assload of suspensions will do the same thing that cutting their contract will. He is not only facing weaopons charges, but menacing and endangering the public. There have been folks that have gone to jail for years for that, mind you none of them had millions of dollars and a high profile though.
     
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    drexlersdad SABAS

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    ive heard this a few times and not sure why. jamison has two more years on his deal after this one. fwiw caron is expiring next year.
     
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    They have to break up that team and start over. Arenas is untradable. I'm sure that they would prefer to trade Jamison over Butler - Jamison is older, has 2 more seasons on his deal, and couple million/year more than Butler. Butler expires end of next season. I'd rather have Butler, but Jamison may be easier to deal for. How would he fit here? Is he a guy you can put out there with LA and 3 guards when we go small? He's always been a good rebounder. I like the fact that he gets a lot offensive rebounds and can score w/o having to run plays for him. At 33, he's pretty old though.

    If we can do expirings and Rudy for Butler, take it. But I doubt that - the Wiz will want more. I'm not sure what they would ask for Jamison? Bayless won't be in a trade for either guy, so that makes it tough. What other "prospect" can we dangle? Claver's rights?
     

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