Memphis loves them some Outlaw

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Damn that conley trade sure wouldve been nice...or that Devin Harris trade
     
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    Is this true? I thought he was playing tonight.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    He's listed as probable for tonight.
     
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    We declined 2 first round draft picks for Outlaw?

    KP, are you serious?
     
  6. Fez Hammersticks

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    KP's had his head stuck up his ass for the past two seasons.

    Outlaw for Picks (from Memphis of all teams) is a deal he should have made without blinking.
     
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    No he should not have. Talk about a way to roll the dice on a guy who gives you fantastic production for his salary and happens to be your franchise player's best friend...

    No one in Blazers land (any of the players) would have liked it if Travis - who they all like and seem to appreciate - was treated like garbage. I am willing to bet that a lot of guys would have been questioning the commitment the team has for the players if this happened.
     
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    This should not come as any surprise. Zach had numerous "career" games against Memphis. They finally got him on their side and it has worked out remarkably well. Similarly, Travis has been a Memphis killer. If he were to fit in as well there as Zach has, it would be a brilliant acquisition.
     
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    Where do you get that from? From what I read, they were willing to swap either the Lakers' or Denver's first rounder for him. So a pick in the high 20s. Basically, picks that are sold for cash often enough to not be worth giving Outlaw away for it.
     
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    It's a business. The faster Roy and the team figures that out, the better. Trading a player is not "treating him like garbage". It's part of the NBA.

    Outlaw is a bench player, and even though he is good value at his contract, if the team could have got a couple of future pieces for him (if a pair of Memphis firsts were really offered) the Blazers should have done it.

    Ed O.
     
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    Outlaw is worth more than a pick in the 20's.

    However, If we did trade him, we would have had another 4 mil to work with last offseason. I don't know if that would have helped at all. Likely, it would have just led to overpaying for a player.
     
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    News reporter: Memphis offered picks for outlaw.
    Poster #1: Yeah, it was probably their 1st and the Lakers pick.
    Poster #2: No, it was the Grizzlies firsts for this year and next year!
    Poster #3: I'm pretty sure it was all their picks this year and next!!!

    Poster #4: All their firsts for the next 2 years!?!?! KP is an absolute idiot!!! WTF is wrong with him?!?
     
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    I would have done that this summer for the sole reason of clearing the logjam (and creating capspace) while getting liquid assets.
     
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    LameR Ha Seung-Jin Approved!

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    This.
     
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    Trading a player as good as Outlaw for a pick in the 20s IS treating him like garbage. He is better than that.
     
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    I think you're smoking crack if you think trading a player for a first rounder is "treating him like garbage".

    Is letting a guy go to another team as a free agent "treating him like garbage"? Is having a guy rot on the end of the bench "treating him like garbage"?

    Give me a break.

    These guys are professionals. If the team would be upset because a bench player got traded for a first rounder then the team needs to grow up.

    Ed O.
     
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    Grizz would be among the Western elite if they added Travis without giving anything up. All they need is a solid scorer off the bench and they're golden for the next several years.
     
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    They still need a PG, but they have more scoring punch and a better coach than the Blazers.
     
  19. BlazerBenner

    BlazerBenner Let them play, Nate.

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    Since the second Pryzbilla got hurt, I suggested that Outlaw and Pendergraph and a 1st Round pick and some cash (Paul Allen doesn't need it and the Grizzlies do) for Mark Gasol.

    We don't need Pendergraph. We don't need Outlaw. We don't need another low 1st Round pick.

    We do need Mark Gasol. He's every thing Greg Oden isn't.....healthy all the time, and a heck of a lot more experienced, and ready to bring an NBA title to Portland right now. It's time to stop waiting for Oden and move on. If he comes back and ever does anything for the team, then it will be gravy. But, it's time to move on.

    And, Nate needs to move on. Andre Miller had 16 pts, 10 boards (while Martell had only 1), and 4 assists, so Nate sits him on the bench for the better half of the 4th Quarter so Brandon Roy can lose the game for us again with that anal-retentive Nate-McMillan Roy Ball where everyone stands around and looks stupid while Roy tries to dribble through 5 guys hoping to get a foul call and go to the line. Well, the refs weren't buying a ticket to that show tonight. As Roy fizzled (under Nate's orders), and Andre Miller wasted away on the bench, the Blazers lost to a team they had no business losing to last night.

    Bayless needs to quit shooting 3's when he can take 2 or 3 steps forward and shoot a 15-footer. Just because he's open doesn't mean he needs to shoot the ball. He's not a 3-point shooter in this league.....yet. He's going to have to wait until 2011-2012 season to be that person who hits from 3's at a .400 clip.
     
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    But that's not what happened. Nate sat Miller down for the start of the 4th quarter and we went on a 25-9 run that got us back into the game. Roy then got his teammates- Howard, Webster, and Bayless- good shots but they missed them all. Finally, with the game tied and 30 secs to play, Roy did the right thing by holding onto the ball til late in the shotclock so that whether or not we scored, the Grizz wouldn't have a lot of time to act. Only problem is, Mayo made a great play and tipped the ball away from Roy and we ended up losing.

    Exactly what kind of magic did you expect from Miller? He had 4 assts and 4 turnovers, he can't shoot, and he was a -7 while Bayless (5 assts & 1 turnover) was a +11.

    Nate made the right decision. The Grizz and the refs just took the game from us. I tip my hat to all of them.
     
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