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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Something about horseshoes and hand grenades.

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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=2A7660B7-18FE-70B2-A84B0ACFC1AE2F44

    GOP: We'll take back the House
    By: Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei
    January 14, 2010 05:00 AM EST

    GOP leaders have privately settled on a strategy to win back the House by putting the vast majority of their money and energy into attacking Democrats — and turning this election into a national referendum on the party in power.

    House Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia, one of 10 leaders who attended a strategy session in Annapolis, Md., this week, said the party will attack Democrats relentlessly for the stimulus, health care and cap-and-trade bills. Internally, Republicans call it the “80-20 strategy,” which, loosely interpreted, means spending 80 percent of the time whacking Democrats and the remainder talking up their own ideas.

    Cantor said he is more confident than ever this gives Republicans an authentic chance of netting the 40 seats they need, especially after reviewing data provided by five GOP pollsters during the leadership retreat. It showed what other public surveys reveal: widespread unease with Democratic policies.

    Cantor conceded that the public is far from thrilled with the GOP — in fact, the party’s image is worse than the Democrats’ — but he argues that Republicans will benefit most from the public loathing of Washington. “I don’t think that we Republicans can even remember what it feels like to have wind at our back,” Cantor said. “We can win back the majority.”

    Is this really possible? Independent analysts say it’s doubtful — but not implausible, for the very reasons Cantor cites. More likely, Republicans will trim a big chunk of the majority, perhaps by two dozen or more, but fall short of the 40-seat pickup they’d need to reclaim the majority, those analysts say.

    What follows is the Republicans’ case for how and why they can pull it off. (The accompanying story explains why Democrats think otherwise.)

    Democrats are in the dumps

    Republicans aren’t as delusional as some think: They know they aren’t going to win a popularity contest with the public right now. But Republicans don’t think they have to, as long as the public remains down on Democratic rule.

    “It is in the mind-set of the public right now: Washington’s out of control,” Cantor said. “They do not have the economic security in their life yet. The 10 months’ time [until the election] is not enough for people to regain their sense of security, no matter where this unemployment rate goes.”

    A newly released CNN/Opinion Research poll shows a majority of Americans disapprove of the president’s handing of every domestic issue surveyed — health care policy, the economy, taxes, unemployment and the budget deficit, some by double-digit margins.

    Cantor contends that President Barack Obama’s agenda is so unpopular that he offers this advice to the president: “Stay the course.”

    Cantor’s chief deputy whip, Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), said the administration’s suggestion that the stimulus would keep unemployment under 8 percent is “going to be the equivalent of [former President] George [W.] Bush landing on the [USS Abraham] Lincoln and saying, ‘Mission accomplished.’”

    A wave is building

    It’s not often that a party picks up 40 seats on the power of its ideas — at least not in contemporary elections.

    The 1994 election, which saw the GOP nab 54 seats, was a reaction to President Bill Clinton and a Congress long dominated by Democrats. The 2006 election, which saw Democrats win back control, was largely a rejection of Bush-era Republicans. But signs of a similar wave — the size and power of which are unknowable — are out there. Poll after poll is showing Democratic incumbents are “upside-down” — more unpopular than they are popular.

    “There is a sense that the growth in spending and what’s going on here is out of control,” Cantor said.

    McCarthy laughed off the Democrats’ talking point that they won’t be taken by surprise; they know they’re in a toxic environment.

    “You can be prepared for the tidal wave,” McCarthy said, “but it knocks me on my butt — it goes over the top of me.”

    Cantor contends that Republican Scott Brown is surging in next week’s special election in Massachusetts to fill the seat of the late Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy partly because of “the fright connected with adding to the one-party rule.” So he says the GOP will offer “a check and a balance on unfettered power.” By making that modest claim, he’s admitting that voters are skeptical of the GOP’s ability to lead after the debacles of the Bush years.

    It’s a numbers game, folks

    Republicans admit they will need some breaks — a lot of them. They hope Democratic retirements — now at 10 seats — inch up to at least 15. Republicans hope they can win 70 percent of those seats, then defeat 10 percent to 15 percent of incumbents. The spin that the party gives to its prospects: 48 Democrats now sit in districts won by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2008. Nearly every one of these races has at least one credible Republican or will soon get one. In addition, according to National Republican Campaign Committee data, 32 Democrats won with less than 55 percent of the vote in 2008. Of 10 Democratic open seats, Republicans will be on offense in at least eight. In 13 Republican open seats, Democrats have fielded strong challengers in only two. Remember: This is the Cantor-GOP spin, but it’s not that far from reality.

    Size matters

    Republican leaders recognize that their party is embarrassingly white, but they estimate that one-quarter of its top 100 candidates will be minorities. Cantor concedes the lack of diversity in his party today is a big concern. Van Tran, a California State Assembly member who left Vietnam at age 10 in a C-130 military cargo plane, is among the minority recruits they think can win. He is running against Democratic Rep. Loretta Sanchez.

    Another bright recruit is Hispanic state Rep. Jaime Herrera, running to fill the seat of retiring Democratic Rep. Brian Baird in Washington. Cantor is taking steps to ensure more diversity: This week, he endorsed Ryan Frazier, an African-American city councilman running against Rep. Ed Perlmutter (D-Colo.), even though he’s facing a competitive primary against a former aide to McCain’s presidential campaign.

    Recruiters have also focused on small-business owners and doctors who can attack Obama’s agenda from personal experience. Among the other candidates they are proud of lining up: Jim Gibbons, a former Iowa State University wrestling coach, and Stephen Fincher, a gospel-singing cotton farmer from Frog Jump, Tenn.

    Smile ... a little

    It won’t be an entirely nasty campaign — at least 20 percent of it. So after Labor Day, the GOP is leaning toward releasing a document — “a 21st-century blueprint,” Cantor calls it — that would echo the party’s successful “Contract With America” of 1994.

    Cantor says it would start with jobs, then go on to promising a level playing field for investments. Aides say it would be more general than the bill-by-bill roster of the “Contract,” instead focusing on vaguer principles. Tax cuts will be included, too.

    It’s not clear how they will handle health care in the document, but Cantor says the party is not so dense as to call for a complete repeal of anything Obama signs into law. They don’t want to defend taking away the popular parts, such as portability.

    “We never said that we don’t want to effect reform,” Cantor said. “We’ve said we’ve got ways that we believe you can bring down health care costs.”
     
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  3. Denny Crane

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    My analysis is that it is a grass roots movement, that Democrats fear it and Republicans see it as an opportunity to regain enough power to have a say in government (at least) or even control of the house and/or senate.

    The rhetoric in the above article is a broad appeal to the tea party crowd. It doesn't talk about morality, family values, abortion, or the things I've found a downer about the republicans over the past 10+ years. A good example:

    Cantor says it would start with jobs, then go on to promising a level playing field for investments. Aides say it would be more general than the bill-by-bill roster of the “Contract,” instead focusing on vaguer principles. Tax cuts will be included, too.

    Meanwhile, Democrats have done nothing to convince a majority of voters that they should be reelected, let alone maintain a filibuster proof senate and control over the white house and congress. It's so bad for democrats right now that they are considering switching parties or are outright retiring. The senate majority leader is down by double digits in polls in his home state to any of (pick one) three republicans.

    Obama is polling in the mid-40s and dropping, though (like myself) people like him personally better than they like what he's done to the country. If I were a republican, I'd gloat about "Go democrats go" and something about horsehoes and hand grenades, but I'd add that nuclear blasts do much more damage even if they miss by a mile.

    This AFP article talks about three recent polls (quinnipiac, CNN, CBS) that only point to Obama's personality as a plus for democrats these days:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.b616ae00a24ef8e49d06735e1603c648.3f1&show_article=1

    I won't quote the whole thing, but I find this supports my analysis:

    But the White House will be concerned by the CBS finding that Obama's standing among independent voters whom he attracted in his 2008 election triumph has fallen to 42 percent -- a decline of 10 points in the last few months alone.


    The rest of the article talks about how his ratings on everything from jobs to health care are in the low 40s/upper 30s, except for (oddly) handling of terrorism.

    And this one:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/125033/Obama-Approval-Terrorism-Up-49.aspx

    says 31% of independents approve of Obama on the economy and healthcare.

    Republicans seem to be doing the right things at this point, though there's considerable suckage to overcome. The democrats are falling on their own sword, and republicans are about to tell everyone, "it's the economy, stupid."

    Hey barfo - it's the economy, stupid.
     
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    Dems: No, you won't

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20100114/pl_politico/31476

     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    I don't really understand that poll. That adds up to 77%. Are the rest independents? Undecided? Anyway, if you add 23 and 18, that puts the Democrats behind by 5%. Once the tea part and Republican candidates get done duking it out in the primary, they'll surely combine to vote against the Democrat in the general election.

    Those seem like pretty small dollar numbers on both sides, don't they? I mean, the Dems seem to have a huge advantage proportionately, but jesus, both sides combined don't have as much money as Zach Randolph. (How fucked up is that?)
     
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    You really think that there is a news bias dynamic that works bottom up? Reporters are not going to shed light on their boss's dirty laundry and stay employed. We have had ample evidence come out of network higher ups curbing stories from mere reporters. Remember Jessica Yellin's admissions? Do you really think the news reporters for NBC want to piss off their weapons manufacturing bosses by painting the latest war in a bad light? The media is cowed to the same corporations that own the politicians on both sides of the isle.

    FOX is an alternative as they are openly joined at the hip with a political party, which gives them a serious leg up on a section of viewers with a vested interest. But they also go for entertainment value like no other smudging the line between news and entertainment to court the melodrama fans who can't resist rubbernecking the latest circus story thrown out. A flaming three car pileup like Palin should fit in perfectly with Beck and Hannity. Their "news" department follows up on the stories their entertainers raise and of course the "liberal" networks spend a good amount of their time doing the same. Certainly this works at least somewhat for FOX's ratings as their numbers are huge compared to the other networks, but those same numbers are a tiny blip on the radar compared to what people actually tune in for. In reality, it's only a very small percentage of Americans who regularly tune in for network news of any flavor. Fox's ratings aren't a ringing endorsement for what they're doing unless the goal is to turn most everyone off.

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