As you may know, I am 17. I play in a rec league for Tualatin high schoolers. Tonight in my game, my friend set up to take a charge when the guy with the ball was like 15 feet away.. Needless to say, the opposing player avoided my friend entirely. My friend fell backwards anyway and didnt touch anyone. Before he could get up, one of the refs angrily calls a technical and pretty much yells "NO FLOPPING ON ME!". My friend is basically like what the fuck.. and my coach, who is also the head of the high school rec basketball league has a 2 minute conversation with the ref.. I didn't hear it but nothing changed.. I just had never heard of someone getting a tech for "flopping" at any level of basketball, and certainly not a high school rec league. Just wanted to share this with anyone and ask if anyone has ever seen something like this before?
Fantastic. I wish they'd have a flopping tech in the NBA. As an aside, is your friend related to Vlade Divac?
PapaG does live in Tualatin.. It is actually possible he was my ref haha I like it too. My friend and I have always disagreed about this. He thinks it's part of the game and I can't stand it.
I thought the NBA did pass the rule... it has just never been called. Flopping is weak. I hear refs in my portlandbasketball.com league yell no flopping in my house all the time. It may work in the NBA... but it is poor form. It doesn't work in a pickup game right? So you are purposely trying to con the ref and if you get caught like that I am fine with Ts. I am fine with throwing them out of the game too. I consider myself competetive... but I have never in my life flopped. I'd rather lose.
I thought so too- that it's supposed to be automatically called as a block. That said, only a small handful of refs call flops. The rest continue to see them, acknowledge them, and then call a charge. The NBA refs are useless.
I think it's a decent idea. Also think it should be a flagrant for a foul at the end of the game where guys just end up hugging each other. I don't know what isn't "flagrant" about that.
it seems to me like that would be a dumb time to use a "no flopping" rule. your friend didn't gain any advantage from flopping, instead he completely took himself out of the play. no reason to penalize him further in that case. it's cases in which flopping actually effects the play where a tech for flopping would have sense.
I'm not comfortable giving the NBA refs a license to call techs on anybody they THINK is flopping. They can't even get it right the way it is right now, the last thing we need is them giving out techs to guys and being totally wrong about it.
I think the thing is... the two players involved always know... for the refs it is like a fake punch in the movies... very difficult to tell from certain angles. Soccer was almost ruined by people taking dives... and the NBA is certainly not better off for it. I think the NBA is trying to send a message about how lame it is. THe problem though... the refs called offensive fouls many times when replays show it was clearly flopping. They can't reverse their own call.
I think anyone caught flopping should be forced to have gender reassignment surgery. If you're going to play like a pussy, you should have one.
In my rec league there are like 5-10 fouls most per game. They could call more sure... but it just interupts the flow of the game. I wish the NBA was more like that.
Precisely! Actually, I see a lot less flopping when I watch girls play than I do in the NBA. It never ceases to amaze me how a grown man 6'10" weighing 250 lbs can look like he's been shot by a cannon at close range at the slighest hint of contact (Luis Scola comes to mind). BNM
