Kinda OT: Big Z for Jamison, and What it Means to Us

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    Apparently, the Cavs are very close to trading Big Z to Washington for Antawn Jamison. As a Laker fan, you have to hope this trade happens. The Cavs matched well against us with their new size, and now if they lose Big Z, we regain the size advantage (please, Pau can dominate Anderson Varejao).

    Also consider, LeBron loves to score, and so does Mo Williams. Adding another scorer to the team may cause ball distribution problems. Lets hope this trade goes down!
     
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    Link?
     
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    The Wizards will waive Big Z and he'll return to Cleveland after 30 days.

    They basically get Jamison for free which means we're screwed.
     
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    I prefer the Cavs make this trade than the rumored deal with the Hornets where they'd acquire David West. The Cavs will improve, but Jamison doesn't scare me because he's a volume scorer and can't defend. He's an undersized power forward who likes to shoot from the outside. I still don't think the Cavs can get past Orlando or Boston (if healthy) in the East.
     
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    EXACTLY!
     
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    Why?? Either way, they'd be responsible for his contract, correct?? Big Z can return next season, I'm sure Washington, who we all know does not like Cleveland very much, can hold onto Big Z for the rest of the season. Have him ride the pine, if need be.
     
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    The Magic are not the same team from last year... Nelson is nowhere near the level of play he was on last year and VC has not learned how to work w/ Dwight.
     
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    Yeah they're responsible for Jamison's contract, but that means nothing. If the Wizards release Big Z, Cleveland can resign him for cheap which means they'd get Jamison for free basically (except they have to pay his contract).

    That being said, I've heard nothing about this swap. If a link could be provided I'd really appreciate it.
     
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    Well, I don't think they'd waive him without negotiating a buyout, that way they actually end up saving money, despite having to pay him.

    This trade doesn't really scare me. Jamison can score, sure, but he's also inconsistent and the Cavs will miss the depth at center when O'Neal gets hurt.
     
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    They'll get Z back.

    Here's the only link i could find LOL

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...cleveland_appears_most_active_in_trade_talks/
     
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    The problem with Cleveland last year against the Magic was their inability to defend the pick and roll. With Shaq on the team they are even more deficient in defending it. If the Cavs get the 1 seed they'll have to face Atlanta and then the winner of Boston/Orlando. I don't think LeBron has enough support to carry him through two tough series.

    Shaq and Big Z are just long in the tooth to play high level basketball for an entire game let alone a tough playoff series.
     
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    sounds like you are describing west imo, they are very similar players, and are the same size as well.
     
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    They are a similar, but West has a better back to the basket game. He seems to be thicker even though they have near identical height and weight listing.
     
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    why dont the cavs just get kevin martin instead? i seriously question danny ferry's abilities as a gm.
     
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    The longevity of his contract probably has something to do with it, as does his injury history over the past couple of years. I also imagine the Kings asking price is going to be a lot higher than Big Z, and the Cavs don't really have the players to package to get him.
     
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    they are both jump shooters, difference is jamison has range. jamison is a great offensive player, if there is any knock it would be his defense.
     
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    Yeah both shoot about 2/3 of their attempts from the perimeter. West is younger and costs about $6.5M less than Jamison throughout the remainder of their contracts.
     
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    yeah but big z is an expiring deal and thats just some more cap room to pursue a big name like amare this summer. amare, jason thompson and tyreke evans would be a great trio. as for martin's injury problems- i understand the apprehension but he only has to be healthy for the playoffs and lebron by himself can carry the cavs to the best record in the league during the regular season.
     
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    That logic won't work. If he's not healthy during the season, he's not going to be in good shape come playoffs, making him more likely to get hurt again. They'll also have zero chemistry if they never play together, and that's not helpful either.
     
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    teams have brought in guys exclusively for the playoffs before. i understand some of those moves havent worked out but its a chance worth taking. in my opinion, what lebron needs are shooters and kevin martin is a definite upgrade over AP- who finishes out games currently for the cavs.
     
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