Who fills roy's void?

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Who fills Roy's starter spot

  1. Blake

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  2. Bayless

    19 vote(s)
    47.5%
  3. Rudy

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    27.5%
  4. another option

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    17.5%
  1. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    If the question is who should start at SG, my first thought was that it would be Bayless, but I'd really like to see Rudy given a chance to start for a few games once he's back in shape. That would be an interesting lineup with Miller/Rudy/Martell.
     
  2. LameR

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    Rudy and Bayless.
     
  3. The_Lillard_King

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    Good to see you are finally coming around.

    Was it the win/loss record with all the injuries or the fact he is getting the players to play so hard, that has turned you around?
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We don't know that Nate is getting the players to play hard, and the win/loss record improved after Miller was moved into the starting lineup, so we could just as easily say it is because of Miller that we are winning.
     
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    You don't think Nate is at least partly responsible for getting the players to play hard?

    I think Miller is playing well. What is the Blazer record since he has started again. I know they are 6-4 in their last ten games which is about their seasonal average.

    But sure, maybe the Blazer success (if one finds them successful) can be attributed more to Miller than Nate. I don't think so, but understand the argument.


    What I don't get is how posters can blame the Wiz loss on Nate and the Philly win on Miller.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm not necessarily saying it's one or the other, but I refuse to make assumptions. We don't know that it's Nate, or Miller. I will say this, I think Nate had no fucking clue how to make it work when we were 15 deep. Now that we only have 7-8 healthy players, he is doing much better. That doesn't say much for McMillan. It basically removes the "rotation" part of being a coach from the equation.

    If Nate can't learn how to make a balanced rotation, and KP won't make a deal to thin the roster a bit, then I would say we are screwed once everyone comes back.
     
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    Come on Nate, as average fans on a chat board, all we really can do is make assumptions and give opinions based on assumptions. In fact you saying Nate has no clue how to make it work when 15 deep and that this team is screwed when everyone comes back is an assumption.

    Not a bad assumption on your part and I think we actually agree on this pont. I will say Nate is not the only coach who has struggled dividing up minutes on a deep team. Even the Sheed years was full of chemistry issues with players thinking they should be getting more time. But I agree that it didn't appear Nate handled that well this year.
     
  8. Natebishop3

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    Well, I guess I didn't make that very clear. I meant I refuse to make assumptions about McMillan getting the guys to play hard. We just have no way of really proving that, and the only thing that works in Miller's favor is his numbers and our record with him in the starting lineup.

    You are right. On message boards we make assumptions every day.
     
  9. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    wouldn't you want the guy drawing shooting fouls to be early, rather than late? you don't get to shoot on non-shooting fouls if you're not in the bonus. But he will produce more fouls in general so perhaps that's what you meant?:dunno:
     
  10. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I think everyone shares the blame and credit, but to play devil's advocate: Nate is in charge of who sits and who plays. Perhaps Miller was able to pull out some gutty stuff in one game?
     
  11. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    If you want to get all pedantic and metaphysical, everything in your life is based on assumption. You assume the sun will not be destroyed. You assume the laws of physics won't suddenly be changed. You assume your opinions are true because they are YOUR OPINIONS.

    but yeah, I think Nate is going to have a lot of trouble when he gets a full healthy roster.

    PS I hope I didn't come across to harsh.:cheers:
     
  12. The_Lillard_King

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    That was my point. NateB said: I'm not necessarily saying it's one or the other, but I refuse to make assumptions. And I pointed out that basically everything we say on this board are assumptions.

    (Nate clarified that he personally refuses to make assumptions about McMillan getting the guys to play hard.)

    But yes, my post was pointing out what you pointed out . . . that everything is an assumption . . . I don't have a problem with assuptions.
     
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  14. Natebishop3

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    Not EVERYTHING is an assumption. Some things are cold hard facts :devilwink:
     
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    Bayless. Rudy has proven nothing.
     
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Oh, you mean like hitting the most three pointers of any rookie ever? ;)
     
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    having no opinion on the unknown is corporate?

    STOMP
     
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    So it's not his fault that they were not playing so hard in the earlier games, but it's due to him that they're playing with a purpose now? Got it.
     
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    I think most players play hard because it's their job and the harder they play, the more they accomplish...which is tied directly to how much they get paid. This isn't high school or college...the players have huge financial incentives to play hard (granted, some college players have big financial incentives to play hard also but most don't).

    I'm not going to give McMillan credit for the players "playing hard." I expect the players to do that and give them credit for doing it.
     
  20. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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