OT: Suns taking offers for Amar'e

You can disagree about his rebounding rate, but his percentage and stats aren't going to lie. He plays at a faste rpace. At that pace, Aldridge would be averaging over 9 rebounds a game. More than Amare currently is. And that has been with Aldridge both playing hurt, and also playing alongside two good rebounders for part of the season in Greg and Joel.

As for where he plays making him a better rebounder, it's really not up to the players, it's up to the coach. Every year, Aldridge's defensive rebounding percentage has increased. So his actual rebounding is getting better. If he runs a pick and pop with a guard, there's really not a lot he can do about being 18 feet from the rim, is there? I'd be interested to see what he would do alongside Nash, and with Amare not with Nash. Amare has a good jumper, so would certainly be asked to pick and pop, and would no longer get to run the pick and roll with Nash.

 

No I don't consider Aldridge playing besides too good rebounders for part of the season a valid arguement. The reason why? I watch the games, and know better. I suggest you do the same, because it isn't even a valid argument as to which player is better. Are you saying Aldridge is better than Amare? If so state it. Amare would be an upgrade across the board. Amare has been to several all star games, and those visits to it, are not flukes. He also has vast playoff experience, and would be a valid 2nd scorer with Brandon, where we cannot depend on Aldridge right now in that arena, and the games right now where he should be stepping up, but is instead choosing to step out, are prime examples of that. I also don't buy the Aldridge being hurt for the games right now. Earlier this season, maybe. But he appears to be moving fine to me. He just isnt' getting it done.

The facts are when Roy is out, our 2nd scorer should be getting into the 20's every night. It's not happening. That is because we don't have a second scorer.

 

Current Rebounding Percentages:

LaMarcus Aldridge:
ORB% - 8.0
DRB% - 19.9
TRB% - 14.0

Amare Stoudemire:
ORB% - 8.2
DRB% - 18.5
TRB% - 13.6

Those who complain about Aldridge's rebounding will likely have the same beef with Stoudemire.

As a second option on offense, Stoudemire is better than Aldridge, but will he be willing to stay in a small market, dreary weather city to play Robin to Roy's Batman? Or, perhaps even Alfred to Greg Oden's Robin? I just don't see Amare being happy in Portland. Even if he did re-sign with the team, I don't expect him to be happy here long term. He could very well be a disruption down the road playing on such a deep, slow paced team with fewer touches to go around. He's used to getting a lot of shots on Phoenix, but is, for some reason, not totally happy there. How will he not be even more unhappy in Portland?

Plus, he doesn't play a lick of defense (Channing Frye is a better defender).

BNM

 

I'm not saying Aldridge is a better player. Why are you asking me to state something I am not making an argument for?
My discussion was on rebounding, and your rebuttal was you watch the games, and then go on for a long paragraph about scoring, all star games, and playoffs, as opposed to disputing rebounding stats.

Fair enough. I guess we can try the reverse. Aldridge is a better scorer than Amare. Don't show me PPG stats. Stats don't matter. Aldridge is better. Stupid, isn't it?

 

It's obvious from several threads that you have a very low opinion of Phoenix. Fair enough. But I strongly disagree with the notion that players, Amare included, do not enjoy playing there. The direction of the team and management's cost cutting is one thing, but I've never heard anything short of positive when it comes to the experience on the court. Mostly due to playing with Nash, of course.

 

This is a good point.

When Jackson moved from the fast-paced Warriors to the slower Bobcats, many people predicted his performance would drop off. In fact, he has played very well. You can quibble over his stats, but when you actually watch him play, it certainly appears he is playing harder and smarter.

If Amare is traded to a team like the Spurs, I would bet he becomes a better player - even if his scoring suffers.