Is a player really foreign born

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  1. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If they're parents are both from the US, and only in a foreign country due to being stationed somewhere due to their service in the military?

    They're talking about the top foreign born scorers in the NBA (Dirk N, Hakeem, Patrick, Duncan and Dominique Wilkins).

    Niques father was an American, iirc. But I'm not saying he is 100% "American" (I have no idea if his mother was from France), but it just struck me as odd to hear that, knowing his father was in the military and afaik, bases are still considered US "land".
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Duncan is considered a US citizen (Virgin Islands). Funny thing is Hakeem is a US citizen too. I think he became one so he could play on our Olympic team back in the mid 90's.
     
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    Steve Nash is actually an African-American officially. Born in CapeTown moved to Canada and is now a US citizen as well.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Born to US parents on a foreign military base makes you an American citizen. (my brother falls into this category)

    Since US doesn't recognize dual citizenship, then you're American.

    Now, if the country the base is on allows anyone born in their borders to be a citizen as well, that's a different can of worms.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I'm pretty sure you can have dual citizenship. I thought you couldn't until an australian friend laid the smack down on me.
     
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    You can definitely have dual citizenship... Some countries do not allow you to maintain US citizenship and theirs...I think Japan is an example...but it's all pretty complex...

    https://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/dual-citizenship.html
     
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    wasnt kobe born in italy or something like that?
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    He doesn't look half-black.

    In a masterful plan to become President, Obama was born in Kenya and sneaked in via Indonesia and Hawaii.

    My brother was born in Japan while my father was in the military. We were told he could choose his citizenship at age 21 if he wanted to. He never did.
     
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    handiman Well-Known Member

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    Citizenship rules have changed over time. Don't assume that what you know to be true now was the case 30+ years ago.
     
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    Everything official I've seen lists Duncan as an international player.
     
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    No wonder he's good at basketball, apparently you don't have to be black, just African American. :grin:
     
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    John McCain was born on a US military base in Panama. By law that makes him a US citizen. During the 2008 campaign, the Senate, unanimously, approved a resolution to clariy that individuals born on foreign military bases to US service personnel are considered to be a citizens by birth, so that if elected there would be no doubt about his legal qualification to serve. Such people had always been considered citizens, but whether they were considered "natural born" citizens had never been up for interpretation before, because it had never really mattered.

    Who knew that a group of nut cases would then have a fantasy that the actual elected President was not a natural born citizen!

    Incidentally, persons born in US trust territories (colonies, in simpler language) like Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands are citizens, but also consider themselves/are considered Puerto Rican et al. Not dual citizenship, but not quite the same as being born in one of the 50 states.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    There are black people in France.
     
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    Ya right! That's the dumbest post ever!
     
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    Colonel Ronan Continue...?

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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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