If we got Phil Jackson..

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Let's say, hypothetically, that Paul Allen threw a ton of money at Phil Jackson this summer and we convinced Jax to come here.

    What would happen? Championship?

    I'm just curious what people think.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    Bad timing. The team would need a year to adjust to the triangle, and the next season will be trashed by the lock-out.
     
  3. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    Usually it takes 3 years with PJax before the team emerges as a championship contender. It takes time to learn the Triangle and the terminology PJax uses.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It didn't take the Lakers that long.
     
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    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    I personally lobbied online for the Blazers to get Phil when he was available and before they hired McMillan. Everyone called me an idiot, that he'd never come here, that he was an overrated coach, and that he couldn't build a roster.

    Me = vindicated by the existance of this thread.
     
  6. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    He took over a championship caliber team and had arguably the two best players in the league when he came to LA. I think he'd get the Blazers (if healthy) to possibly the WCF.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I love victim complexes that create a hazy, imaginary opposition out of "everyone."

    I didn't call you an idiot, though I do think it's unlikely he would have chosen to coach Portland. I would have loved to have had Portland hire him, though, if it had been possible.

    I was calling for Portland to trade for LeBron James. Everyone called me an idiot for that call.* I'm now vindicated by the fact that everyone would like James on the team.


    *May be a fictionalized account for sake of the response
     
  8. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It also didn't take the Bulls that long.

    But why does anyone thing Phil would come to Portland?

    Paul Allen could offer him 100% control, half the team in ownership AND he'd only have to coach the home games, and he'd still not come here.
     
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Where did you come up with that idea? It sure isn't supported by the facts.

    The Bulls won their first title in Phil's second season as coach (and then two more in a row after that).

    The Lakers won a title in Phil's FIRST season as coach (and then two more after that).

    So, in his first three years in Chicago, the Bulls won two titles. In his firth three years in Los Angeles, the Lakers won three titles.

    BNM
     
  10. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Because he's pissed that Jerry Buss passed over his main squeeze (who was much more deserving and qualified) and turned the team over to his idiot son Jim instead. As a result, Phil has not signed an extension and his contract with the Lakers is up at the end of this season.

    There is no salary cap on coaches. Paul Allen can offer him any amount he wants. He just gave LaMarcus Aldridge $65 million in the hope that he can be part of a championship team in Portland. Why would he not offer Phil Jackson the same - or even more given that Phil's salary would not count against the cap, and he wouldn't have to pay luxury tax on it?

    $75 million over 3 years would more than double Phil's current salary, and would be considered a bargain by Paul Allen if the Blazers win a title or two.

    BNM
     
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    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

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    Please don't tell me you think the Blazers are any where close, talent-wise, to a team that had Shaq in his prime and Kobe Bryant.
     
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    He said himself. It takes 3 years in his system. The Bulls and Lakers teams he took over were already championship caliber and had the veteran players. Your Blazer team is relatively young and doesn't have a lot of post season success.
     
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    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

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    One team had the greatest player of all-time, the other had 2 of the top 10 players of all-time. The Blazers have one all-star player.
     
  14. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Nobody said they are - just refuting that the incorrect assertion that:

    "Usually it takes 3 years with PJax before the team emerges as a championship contender."

    Is not historically accurate. It has NEVER taken a Phil Jackson team that long to WIN a championship, let alone emerge as a contender.

    BNM
     
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    His second time around with the Lakers did.
     
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    i would love to get him...but he hates portland lmao
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The Blazers have the pieces to win a championship. I personally think this team would be awesome with Jackson and the triangle. Roy could easily play the same kind of role that Kobe does on the Lakers.
     
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    People on here would post how he was an overrated coach after every loss. They would say he only won when he had the best player in the league playing for him. They would questions his substitution patterns. They would question why he would let teams go on long runs without calling timeouts.

    Overall, we would probably win 50-59 games (assuming we were healthy), and the people that always piss and moan about our coaching would continue to do so.
     
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    Just think of the spin-off marketing from his "jackals" comment. "Jackson & his Jackals."
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The only problem I see is Phil Jackson can't win in Portland. He's lost what, nine in a row and 22 of 26?

    BNM
     

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