Also, base it on their skills NOW, not potential, and assuming everyone is healthy. 1. Paul Pierce 2. Wally Szczerbiak 3. Delonte West 4. Tony Allen 5. Ryan Gomes 6. Al Jefferson 7. Kendrick Perkins 8. Raef LaFrentz 9. Gerald Green 10. Dan Dickau 11. Michael Olowokandi 12. Orien Greene 13. Brian Scalabrine 14. Dwayne Jones
1. Paul Pierce2. Wally Szczerbiak3. Delonte West4. Ryan Gomes5. Tony Allen6. Al Jefferson7. Raef LaFrentz8. Kendrick Perkins9. Gerald Green10. Dan Dickau11. Michael Olowokandi12. Orien Greene13. Brian Scalabrine14. Dwayne Jones
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 5 2006, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Paul Pierce 2. Wally Szczerbiak 3. Delonte West 4. Ryan Gomes 5. Tony Allen 6. Al Jefferson 7. Raef LaFrentz 8. Kendrick Perkins 9. Gerald Green 10. Dan Dickau 11. Michael Olowokandi 12. Orien Greene 13. Brian Scalabrine 14. Dwayne Jones</div> Yeah I put TA over Gomes right now because when TA is healthy he's excellent and he contains the opposing superstars, but I'm not gunna argue it because I believe it's very close. And I also put Perk over Raef simply because of his rebounding and defensive presence. If Raef played in 05-06 like he did in 04-05, then Raef would be #4 on this list. But that's not the case.
1. Paul Pierce2. Wally Szczerbiak3. Delonte West4. Ryan Gomes5. Tony Allen6. Al Jefferson7. Raef LaFrentz8. Kendrick Perkins9. Gerald Green10. Dan Dickau11. Michael Olowokandi12. Orien Greene13. Brian Scalabrine14. Dwayne JonesI agree with JustBlaze here. It's tough to put Kandiman over anyone, but if the man would would just play with any kind of motivation! I think Jones could be a solid backup someday, he is an excellent rebounder and runs the floor well.
1. Paul Pierce2. Delonte West3. Wally World4. Ryan Gomes5. Al Jefferson6. Tony Allen7. Kendrick Perkins8. Gerald Green9. Raef LaFrentz10. Dan Dickau11. Orien Greene12. Dwayne Jones13. Brian Scalabrine :nasty:This is how i think it will be at the start of next year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ May 5 2006, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Paul Pierce 2. Delonte West 3. Wally World 4. Ryan Gomes 5. Al Jefferson 6. Tony Allen 7. Kendrick Perkins 8. Gerald Green 9. Raef LaFrentz 10. Dan Dickau 11. Orien Greene 12. Dwayne Jones 13. Brian Scalabrine :nasty: This is how i think it will be at the start of next year.</div> I don't think all 13 of those guys will be here next year.
yeah i know, but these are the people that have a contract to play for us next year. it'd be cool if Scalabrine died or something.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ May 7 2006, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah i know, but these are the people that have a contract to play for us next year. it'd be cool if Scalabrine died or something.</div> I don't want Scal to die, I just want him traded or being kept on the team simply for being a mentor and a locker-room presence. Then again, who wants to pay $15M over 5 years for a good person?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 5 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I put TA over Gomes right now because when TA is healthy he's excellent and he contains the opposing superstars, but I'm not gunna argue it because I believe it's very close. And I also put Perk over Raef simply because of his rebounding and defensive presence. If Raef played in 05-06 like he did in 04-05, then Raef would be #4 on this list. But that's not the case.</div>I understand with Raef, but I still feel he has more of a complete game then Perk and he's clearly the superior offensive player, even last year. He's not a bad rebounder, and he can block shots when he tries.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 7 2006, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>when he tries.</div>That is the key point right there. I was shocked over Raef's attitude over PT. I understand his frustration though. But c'mon Raef it was hard enough to get rid of Blount don't start acting like him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 8 2006, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He has nothing to bi*ch about, he's making 8 figures to do a whole lot of nothing.</div>did you here about how he blew up when Perk took his starting spot? he was like "What the hell else should i expect from this coaching staff?!"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ May 8 2006, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>did you here about how he blew up when Perk took his starting spot? he was like "What the hell else should i expect from this coaching staff?!" </div>You should expect to sit on your ass and play 20 minutes a night, and milk our organization for another $45 million. What the F*ck does he have to bi*ch about? If he was a good player then he'd be playing, he isn't so he's not. It's not like he's a young player who needs the playing time to get a contract, he's a very rich man and he absolutely nothing to complain about.
I agree with most of your points Blaze, but if it wasn't for his knees, Raef could be a very very good player in this league. Even the Raef from 04-05 was great. I loved that Raef. But this year, on a worse team with worse big men, he only played half as well as he did in 04-05. That pissed me off. I like Raef a lot but I think that him complaining about minutes was wrong. If anything he should be complaining about touches. He could be more productive if people gave him the damn ball more often, but oh well.
If I were him I'd be keeping my mouth shut and quietly making my fortune, not complaining because our franchise is trying to develop the young talent instead of giving him more time.
1. Paul Pierce2. Wally Szczerbiak3. Delonte West4. Ryan Gomes5. Tony Allen6. Kendrick Perkins7. Al Jefferson8. Gerald Green9. Raef LaFrentz10. Orien Greene11. Dan Dickau12. Michael Olowokandi98432798345984325. Brian Scalabrine98432798345984326. Dwayne JonesYeah, no way Raef is higher the G-Money. Raef, while he can stroke a three, hes the biggest f*cking puss on the boards, and cant play the smallest bit of defense. Tony Allen would be higher than Gomes, but IMO his inconsistency dropped him just a bit. Perkins is definitely above Jefferson too. Perk is a beast on the offensive glass, and his jump hook is coming along very nicely. The stretch run at the end of the year his jump hook really impressed me. Jefferson isnt higher because he is a liability on the defensive end. He cant man up down in the post and really needs to work on that. Green really impressed me at the end of the year too. His offensive game is just spectacular, and I'm dying to see more from this kid next season. Hopefully he'll have a much bigger role, and can see around 20-25 mins a game depending on a marginal increase in his defensive and ball handling skills. But like I've said in another thread, I dont see Jefferson and LaFrentz here past this offseason. They'll both get swung with a first rounder somewhere for a high profile 4 or 5 guy such as Jermaine O'Neal or Kevin Garnett (I can wish, right?)
