all valid points JustBlaze, I think it's mostly because he isn't that flashy, he's not a big dunker although he does have upps he doesn't do 360 windmills like Vince does, he also doesn't flop like Vince does
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 9 2006, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>all valid points JustBlaze, I think it's mostly because he isn't that flashy, he's not a big dunker although he does have upps he doesn't do 360 windmills like Vince does, he also doesn't flop like Vince does</div>I agree, he always seems to be in Vince's shadow, since draft day. There's other great players in the NBA who don't get the attnetion they deserve, but I think he's the best under-appreciated player, if that makes any sense.
Paul Pierce a HOF? He's a very good player but come on, he's never won anything, you have to set standards and can't let every good player in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Paul Pierce a HOF? He's a very good player but come on, he's never won anything, you have to set standards and can't let every good player in.</div>look at his stats, if he keeps it up a few more years, he might be good for it.If all our young guys develop like we all hope they develop and Paul is the centerpiece of our team and we get a ring. I'd say he's definately going to get in.
Give me a break, he's been a very good player but he has not won anything or changed the game...I just think the HOF standards are too low.
He has to lead his team to the playoffs in the next few years for them to have a chance. I say that if he puts up these numbers for the next couple of years and takes his team to the finals, he has a descent chance of getting in. Voters like to put winners in to the HOF and as of late he hasnt been a winner. He has done excellent for himself but his team needs to make it to the finals and that will be very difficult with the Heat and Pistons in the easter conference.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 9 2006, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure you would have the whole Pistons starting lineup in the top 20 which is simply ridiculous. You take one piece out of the Pistons puzzle and this team isn't nearly as good as they are right now. There are few players in this league that are consistent as Paul Pierce or driven. This guy plays a full season every season and plays his ass off every night. The seasons where he's only played 79 games are because he sat out the last three meaningless games to not get some stupid injury. I agree with the fact that a ring would help his chances getting in the HOF but c'mon to say he's barely a top 20 player is ridiculous. He's not flashy, not a loudmouth, he just plays the game.</div>Not quite, he missed 2 games in the 98-99 lockout season, so out of 50 he played 48, missed 9 games in 1999-2000, so 73 out of 82, 79 out of 82 in 02-03, so 3 more games, 2 games in o3-04, and 3 games this season. Wow. Only 19 games missed, and he's played 605 games in his career. He's consistent and he plays hard but he isn't going to be a Hall-of-famer because he has not that much noise in the league. He's the league's most underrated superstar. In 20 years, if you say Paul Pierce, the kids are gonna be who's he?? He's talked a lot about today, but he's not the type of player like kobe bryant to get much attention in the future. and if he is in the hall-of-fame, it'd be if he breaks a lot more Celtic Records, gets at least two 30 point average seasons, and get his team deep in the playoffs.
okay, so he missed a few games. big deal, it's nothing compared to some of the other players. As of right now, i'd say Pierce is the most consistent player in the league, and one of the most durable. Talk about intangibles..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Not quite, he missed 2 games in the 98-99 lockout season, so out of 50 he played 48, missed 9 games in 1999-2000, so 73 out of 82, 79 out of 82 in 02-03, so 3 more games, 2 games in o3-04, and 3 games this season.</div>I don't understand where your going with that, your just stating the fact that he's only missed 19 games in 8 season which is pretty damn good when you look at a guy like Vince Carter who has missed 85 games in 8 seasons.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In 20 years, if you say Paul Pierce, the kids are gonna be who's he??</div>what?? Not in New England, Pierce's number will be retired in Boston and the guy has been in five all-star games. And if "the kids" don't know, fill them in and tell them how he was the most underrated player who was nearly stabbed to death and came back not missing a beat and played like an all-star.Kobe's amazing and all but let's see him win a title without the diesel.
I think it's to early to tell just now,hes still in his prime and has lots of great seasons to still put up,plus you don't know if he will be troubled by injuries in his career later on.It'll be interesting watching Paul play with the young guns in Boston in the upcoming years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think it's to early to tell just now,hes still in his prime and has lots of great seasons to still put up,plus you don't know if he will be troubled by injuries in his career later on.It'll be interesting watching Paul play with the young guns in Boston in the upcoming years</div>Couldn't agree with you more, a lot of people around the league picture Paul as the guy who had some success with Antoine Walker and it's now slowly fading.....there are some great young players we have in Boston and if Paul signs an extension this team could turn into one hell of a ball club in a few years. If we can have Pierce as the centerpiece, CelticsPride could be running wild back in Boston :beerchug:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 10 2006, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Couldn't agree with you more, a lot of people around the league picture Paul as the guy who had some success with Antoine Walker and it's now slowly fading.....there are some great young players we have in Boston and if Paul signs an extension this team could turn into one hell of a ball club in a few years. If we can have Pierce as the centerpiece, CelticsPride could be running wild back in Boston :beerchug:</div>Agreed, we have a future at basically every position, if they can develop while Paul is still in his prime then we could become a force in the eastern conference.
It depends on his future with the Celtics, He needs to get an accomplishment that will change the way people look at his NBA career.
If he wins a title with this team, he will be in. If he doesnt, he doesnt have much of a chance. He's defintiely got the stats though, just not the MVPs or championships.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Celtics cant do anything without Paul Pierce and he can get into the Hall Of Fame with them lol</div>They went six games in in an eastern conference finals mr. miami heat and clearly you don't follow the Celtics because we are in a rebuilding stage right now and we have a ton of young talent. In a few years we'll be nasty if Pierce stays here. I hate when people make totally retard comment like The Admin just did.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ May 20 2006, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If he wins a title with this team, he will be in. If he doesnt, he doesnt have much of a chance. He's defintiely got the stats though, just not the MVPs or championships.</div>couldnt agree with you less. pierce is a TOP FIVE player right now. he is the non-playoff teams MVP. he's a top ten all time celtic easily. His streak of 30 point games and game winners was absolutely incredible to watch this season. If the celtics had had wally from the beginning they would have had the 7th seed or so. Pierce has been through it all, the bad coaches and chemistry, the uncertainty, the trade rumors, and he's made it through brilliantly. If the young C's develop like they should then this team will be dangerous. Delonte-Lenny Wilkins|||Tony Allen-Bruce Bowen with hops|||Al Jefferson-KG|||Gerald Green-T-Mac|||Kendrick Perkins-Ben Wallace|||If even one of those happens (except maybe ta42) and Gomes improves which he will this team will be dangerous. Pierce has atleast 5 years as a top 15 (not top 5 cuz of how the leagues gonna get better and age will catch up with him towards year 4) NBA player, and with the stats hes put up and how HIS team is changing for the better, theres no way Paul doesn't end up in the HOF
