Rate this team Best to Worst

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  1. Rok

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>STackhouse definitely isn't needed on this team if Griffin, Daniels, and Harris are healthy.</div>Those three have yet to show they can be healthy, so shut the <Censored> up about Stack not being needed. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>This team was doing great before Stackhouse.</div>Didn't Stackhouse play when we went on the winning streak? Oh yea he did. Also, our sg position is so interchangeable with any of the three Griff, Daniels and Stackhouse that there will be no dropoff despite who gets what minutes because they simply aren't as important as the other players, their not even 4th or 5th in importance. That is for Dirk, Howard, Terry, Harris and the centers. So who cares who plays at sg. You favor one over all three, that's your problem, I don't favor any one over the other and think they will produce the same amount at the spot. Start doing the same because your favortism is just showing and makes you a biased fan.And blah all you want about Stack, all your doing is annoying other posters. Your words are not getting him traded comprende? It's just a broken record over and over again of chalkboard scratching.
     
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    Ok since their role players and with the lineup of Diop, Nowitzi, Howard, and Terry I would rate our sg rotation.1.Starter Daniels/Backup Stackhouse GREAT since Daniels compliments the starters well and yet is a threat on offense while Stackhouse can score off the bench.2.Starter Daniels/Backup Griffin. Ok since Daniels compliments the starters but Griffin won't get you any scoring off the bench.3.Starter Stackhouse/backup Griffin. Worst possible situation since the chemistry would be hurt by Stackhouse's shoot first mentality and Griffin won't get you much off the bench.4.Starter Stackhouse/Backup Daniels. Also bad but not as bad as Griffin backing up Stackhouse.5.Starter Griffin/backup Stackhouse. Good since Griffin plays well with the starters and Stackhouse scores off the bench. 6.Starter Griffin/backup Daniels. That would be good but Daniels is better as a starter. If you don't think role players are important than you don't know basketball.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Ok since their role players and with the lineup of Diop, Nowitzi, Howard, and Terry I would rate our sg rotation.1.Starter Daniels/Backup Stackhouse GREAT since Daniels compliments the starters well and yet is a threat on offense while Stackhouse can score off the bench.2.Starter Daniels/Backup Griffin. Ok since Daniels compliments the starters but Griffin won't get you any scoring off the bench.3.Starter Stackhouse/backup Griffin. Worst possible situation since the chemistry would be hurt by Stackhouse's shoot first mentality and Griffin won't get you much off the bench.4.Starter Stackhouse/Backup Daniels. Also bad but not as bad as Griffin backing up Stackhouse.5.Starter Griffin/backup Stackhouse. Good since Griffin plays well with the starters and Stackhouse scores off the bench. 6.Starter Griffin/backup Daniels. That would be good but Daniels is better as a starter. If you don't think role players are important than you don't know basketball.</div>What is all that? And please point out where I said role players aren't important, seriously point it out to me. Honestly, I said the players at sg aren't as important as the our top 4 or 5 players and then you take that and scramble into <Censored>. Then you breakdown who should start and backup like anyone cares. Those three players don't have to be strictly focused at sg like you have them, Daniels can play sf or pg, Stack/Griff can play minutes at the 3 as well, and Griff possibly at times at the 4 in limited minutes. All three will get minutes, and whoever plays sg, backup or starter, I expect the same results.
     
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    Josh Howard is the small forward. They mainly will be playing shooting guard. You act like it wasn't important who was out on the court and I proved you wrong. Than you go with this they aren't as important as our top 4th or 5th most important player which means to me that it won't matter which it does for chemistry purposes. It effects our top 5 players.
     
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    There is NO way Harris is above Stack, because he is one of team's three leaders, Harris is still a rookie in playing experience term.And Howard is all-around, but still is nowhere near Terry or Dirk on offense.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ Apr 19 2006, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is NO way Harris is above Stack, because he is one of team's three leaders, Harris is still a rookie in playing experience term.And Howard is all-around, but still is nowhere near Terry or Dirk on offense.</div>Howard is close to Terry on offense and dominates him in every other part of the game. Terry is one dimensional and that is shooting. Everything else Howard dominates him in. I already get that you don't think too highly of Harris even though he is Dallas's best slasher and passer along with good defense. He is a second year player since he has gone through 2 years of listening to coaches and playing through practice and learning the game. He hasn't played a ton of games but enough.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You act like it wasn't important who was out on the court and I proved you wrong. Than you go with this they aren't as important as our top 4th or 5th most important player which means to me that it won't matter which it does for chemistry purposes.</div> [​IMG] I said it in the first place dumbass their not as important as our 4th or 5th player. Go look at the posts. I reiterated it because you decided to breakdown a chart of who should start and who should be on the bench. Bottom line, you plug anyone at that 2 spot, whether it's Griff, Stack, and Daniels, and you still have the top 4/5 guys, it doesn't matter whose starting. I've yet to see any chemistry disruptions from our 3 guards who have all started at the 2 guard this year. So spare me chemistry issues.And wtf did you prove me wrong at? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Josh Howard is the small forward. They mainly will be playing shooting guard.</div>Howard doesn't play 48 minutes. And I don't expect Griff, Stack, and Daniels to only be relegated to shooting guard. The fact you based your chart on that, makes it wrong and you proved nothing. Also, I'm not going to take anything from that chart because it's your opinion and since you heavily favor Daniels, it's going to be skewed. So why bother.
     
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    Ok they can play their 8-10 at small forward and now with Armstrong down probably another 10 minutes at point guard. I like Daniels at the point guard better than Armstrong anyways. Daniels can post up smaller and weaker players if given the opportunity.
     
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    What's the news on DA, that's a tough loss with Harris already out.
     
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    Actually it is more positive than first thought. DA is expected to play on Sunday.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 19 2006, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Howard is close to Terry on offense and dominates him in every other part of the game. Terry is one dimensional and that is shooting. Everything else Howard dominates him in. I already get that you don't think too highly of Harris even though he is Dallas's best slasher and passer along with good defense. He is a second year player since he has gone through 2 years of listening to coaches and playing through practice and learning the game. He hasn't played a ton of games but enough.</div>Okay, is Howard clutch? No.Terry's had LOTS of shot clock buzzer-beaters, quarter buzzer-beaters, and gamewinners and gametiers at the buzzer.
     
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    There is more to the game than just how clutch you are. Howard is much better than Terry in the first 3 quarters. The Mavs don't have a chance to win without Howard so Terry won't have a chance to be clutch in that case. Also Terry gives it all back on the defensive end. Harris is needed for this reason. To hide Terry's defense.
     
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    The Mavs don't have a real good chance of winning anything without Dirk, Howard, and Terry...oh and throw in Stack and Diop/Damp at center...Once again, the thread is useless.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 22 2006, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is more to the game than just how clutch you are. Howard is much better than Terry in the first 3 quarters. The Mavs don't have a chance to win without Howard so Terry won't have a chance to be clutch in that case. Also Terry gives it all back on the defensive end. Harris is needed for this reason. To hide Terry's defense.</div>More like the first TWO quarters for Howard.
     
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    Two quarters out of Howard beats the 1 quarter out of Terry or sometimes a half a quarter. Terry is a liability on defense and doesn't pass well. Marvinmartian has the list right except take out Stackhouse. Stackhouse isn't any more important than Harris, Daniels, and Griffin. The team has done fine without Stackhouse this year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Stackhouse isn't any more important than Harris, Daniels, and Griffin. The team has done fine without Stackhouse this year.</div>Same can be said for Daniels. [​IMG]
     
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    1. Dirk Nowitzki
    2. Josh Howard
    3. Jason Terry
    4. Jerry Stackhouse
    5. Marquis Daniels
    6. Devin Harris
    7. Erick Dampier
    8. Keith Van Horn
    9. Adrian Griffin
    10. Desagana Diop
    11. Josh Powell
    12. Rawle Marshall
    13. Darrell Armstrong
    14. Didier Ilunga-Mbenga
    15. Pavel Podkolzine
     

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