Marcus Camby first day news thread

Sounded like a good guy who is looking forward to playing for a winner.

 

More please...

 

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Travis so upset his twiiter is deactivated http://twitter.com/TravisOutlaw25

lol

 

Clipper Interim coach is pretty upset, says team will be affected

 

Since Hollinger basically developed PER, I'm guessing the reason is Outlaw's average PER (15ish) versus Thornton's miserable PER (11.5ish) over the past 3 years.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_j2Y9DAAc4

 

John Hollinger
Clippers aren't just being cheap
"I know everyone thinks the Clippers are just being cheapskates since they're basically selling Marcus Camby for $1.5 million, but consider two factors. First, Camby was going to be an unrestricted free agent after the season anyway; regardless of whether the Clips traded him or kept him their odds of re-signing him are the same. Second, they don't come away from this without assets. Steve Blake is a free agent and presumably won't be back, but having Travis Outlaw's Bird rights is a worthwhile asset. There is going to be demand for him on the free-agent market and the Clips, at the very least, can include him in a sign-and-trade deal and get something back in return. He might stick around too. Outlaw wants to go somewhere he can get minutes and shots -- i.e., not Portland -- and L.A. seems as good a place as any right now. Speaking of which, this isn't a bad short-term deal either. The Clippers have several power forward candidates, including the uncelebrated but hugely productive Craig Smith, so Camby's loss might not be a huge blow. Meanwhile, Blake is a major upgrade on Sebastian Telfair at backup point guard and Outlaw, who should be back in a few weeks, offers similar improvement over Al Thornton and Rasual Butler at the small forward spot."

 

First video interview: http://www.nba.com/blazers/video/2010/02/16/camby021610m4v-1233932/index.html

 

True, and oddly, PER isn't exactly a progressive statistic. It tends to stay somewhat consistent as a career progresses. Great players usually show a great PER early in their careers, average players like Outlaw show an average PER, and bad players generally show a low PER.

It's one of the reasons I am so incredibly high on Greg Oden (if he can just stay fucking healthy!). He was showing the PER of an All-Star player this season, yet the "experts" nationally tend to clown on him. Chris Kaman was an All-Star alternate this season with a PER of 17.2. I know this may sound nuts, but a healthy Oden is extremely underrated in terms of his effectiveness.

 

PER of 15 is not average in the league. It is average per minute played, not per player. (A big misconception about PER).

A PER of 15 is translated to "average NBA starter", not "average NBA player". In other words - PER of 15 for a guy that played nice amounts of time shows you that he is an "above average NBA player".

Given that average NBA salary is around the MLE - Outlaw was a great ROI.

 

Alright I'm Sold! Great Fit.

 

I don't disagree with Outlaw being a decent ROI. "Great" may be stretching it, but it's not like the guy was a total slug. He just had one of the most unique games in the NBA, and it was usually either very good or very bad. In the playoffs, he was very bad, and I have to factor that into my opinion of him being a relatively average player. He is basically a tweener anyhow, so him starting anywhere is going to take a D'Antoni or Nellie system to make him effective.

 

Oops, ABD

 

You made that observation while using PER of 15 to justify it - but the reality is that 15 is not average NBA player PER.