Another shot from Simmons

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    But do you agree with him?

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  2. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't read Simmons, but the Blazers were bidding against themselves and gave Aldridge too much money. I thought so at the time and still do, but... what's done is done.

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  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    meh, who cares, he'll be fine. better than losing him.
     
  4. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Yes. It's also why the ticket-paying public needs to be saved from the owners and the players.
     
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    Reep Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I like LMA, but this was paying on potential, not reality. As long as players with potential have leverage (to leave for other teams willing to pay for potential), they will be paid up to the max, and often more than they are worth (compared to true max players).

    I don't think signing LMA for that amount was a bad idea given the current CBA, but that is why it needs to be changed. Owners have to push the limits to remain competitive. The only solution is to lower the limits.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    Was the LMA contract a mistake? Yes.

    Do the owners need saving from themselves? No. What they need, is a tad more social Darwinism.
     
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    You know when Rashard Lewis was signed to a huge contract in Orlando, pretty much everybody thought it was way too much. After Orlando went to the finals, not so much. Basically I view it the same way here. If Portland starts winning and competing at the highest level, people really won't give a shit about it. But if Portland fails and he is under peforming, I expect a lot of folks to bitch about it.
     
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  8. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    When you talked about the shot, I thought you were going to bring up the crack about the two unnamed fan bases that continually overhype their players. I thought that was us and Toronto, tbh, but it seems like he likes TOR.
     
  9. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Excellent post. Have some green stuff.
     
  10. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Good lord, Simmons loves to hate on the Blazers. Of all the truly horrid contracts signed since the last CBA was negotiated. Aldridge's contract probably isn't even in the top 100 worst. The Knicks alone at one time had an entire roster full of bad contracts.

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  11. hasoos

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    And they are still reeling from it. Two Words: Allen Houston.
     
  12. Ed O

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    Most of those contracts, though, don't extend past the length of the current CBA. I think it's premature to call it a disastrous contract, though...

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  13. drexlersdad

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    simmons is a clipper fan.
     
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    this is stupid, hes averaging over 17/8, there are lots of players making more than him that are older, declining, and already less productive.

    why hate on ourselves here?
     
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    bynum, 15/8, injured again, MAX CONTRACT. fucking broy money. why doesnt simmons hate on this?
     
  16. DeanMoriarty

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    Simmons was an abused child.

    He feeds off the Blazer fan base. Don't give him any attention and he'll become irrelevant.
     
  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, Steve Francis, Eddy Curry, Jared Jefferies, etc.

    Speaking of Allan Houston... During the 2006-07 season, the Knicks paid almost $100 million in salary and luxury tax payments for players who weren't even on their active roster for a single game:

    Allan Houston - $20,718,750
    Jalen Rose - $16,901,500
    Maurice Taylor - $9,750,000
    Shandon Anderson - $8,500,000
    Jerome Williams - $6,425,000

    Add in the luxury tax payments at that comes to over $97 million.

    Oddly, Isiah gave out very few of those horrendous contracts, but he sure seemed to go out of his way to collect them.

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    Bynum is a 22 year-old center who's putting up a PER of 20. His contract is huge, but there are only two more guaranteed years (of $28.6m) past this one on it, and I don't think many people think it was a mistake to give it to him.

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  19. hasoos

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    Well considering they won a title, I guess they are doing something right. They can look at making changes when they are no longer winning titles.
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    There are plenty of players (see Turkoglu, Hedo) on worse contracts that will extend beyond the current CBA (not 100 of them, but several). They are usually older players who were given big contracts based on past performance who have rapidly declined.

    Aldridge is just 24 and will be only 29 when his current contract expires. Barring serious injury (knock wood), he should be in his prime and very productive for the entire length of this contract. In hindsight, he may not be a bargain, but I hardly think his contract should be used as an example of why the owners need protection from themselves (see again, Turkoglu, Hedo).

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