Time to focus on the real problem...

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  1. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    But when they do what they're supposed to and we beat a team by 20, Nate gets none of the creadit from the "Coach McSuxxors" party. So which is it? Coach only gets the blame? Players only get the credit?

    Fuck, that's straight bullshit.
     
  2. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Youre fucking kidding me?
     
  3. RagingBull04

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    The real problem isn't the isolated incidents for me. It's the overall product on the floor and the lack of improvement in certain areas such as offense. There is such a lack of creativity there. And defensively, they lack focus, fire and consistency. But the big problem is offensively, this team isn't growing under him.
     
  4. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    I dont blame him for singular losses though. I'm an overall picture sort of chap.

    The team played its best ball once NM ran out of choices to make. Last night it was back to the exact same shite that they were playing to open the season. Uninspired and clueless on both sides of the ball.

    Wait until we get 2 more players back next year... Full steam ahead cappin!
     
  5. RagingBull04

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    This
     
  6. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    This

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  7. Tince

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    You say these things, but I'd like to see you name (and defend your selections) for better available coaches.

    Everyone is quick to point out how something is less than perfect, but they never seem to have a well thought out solution to making it better.
     
  8. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    05-06: 88.8ppg
    06-07: 94.1ppg
    07-08: 95.4ppg
    08-09: 99.5pgg
     
  9. hasoos

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    Yes but the question is, is it because the talent level is growing, or the team is growing? This can easily be attributed to better talent IMO.
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    The addition of actual talent helps too.

    That's not to say that the team hasn't improved under Nate's watch, but it's what he's able to do from this point forward with a mostly well-rounded and talented team that will determine whether or not he belongs long term.

    For my part I've gone from a lukewarm Nate supporter, to slightly 'South' of that invisible line between confidence in a coach and his system and thinking that a change might be necessary.

    Whatever the case he's probably going to be here for at least one more season (barring a total collapse down the stretch)
     
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    If you ever listen to Nate, he knows and understands for this team to give itself a shot to win, it needs to "scrap". Deep down, I think he believes the "scrappin" will make up for any offensive defeciency this team has. Face it, this team blows on offense. If it doesn't have Brandon, they are terrible. They looked HORRRRRRRIBLE on friday night.

    And to add to that, they really shouldn't. They are what, how many months into the season? 4? The offense should be running on all cylinders right now or close to it.
     
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  12. Tince

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    I agree with everyone that the talent has improved and that certainly does help.

    I just find it amusing that the original post I was responding to throws out an extreme statement as the truth without any facts and justification behind it.
     
  13. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    It's only an opinion. I can have an opinion regarding the ability of a coach. Or if I think his style is garbage.

    It's not my job to find a better coach. They pay Kevin Pritchard a lot of money to do that.

    If they decided they wanted to pay me to do it, I'd start googling some assistant coaches resumes. Hell if they wanted me to coach I'm pretty sure I could call a time out and draw up an off balanced Steve Blake 3 point attempt with 1 second on the shot clock.

    RIP SB
     
  14. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    I just find it amusing that you call the original post amusing without any facts and justification behind it.
     
  15. Tince

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    A team who has suffered tons of injuries to key players, is one game removed from their best player being out 5 weeks, just traded anyone some of their longest tenured players, and has had handful of different starting lineups, should be "running on all cylinders"?

    When you say that out loud, does that sound like a realistic expectation?
     
  16. andalusian

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    Our offense is still one of the most efficient in the entire league, with all the injuries, with Roy out for so long, without the offensive rebounding that made the team #1 in offensive efficiency last year - we are still #6 in offensive efficiency this year). This is mind boggling good, and it goes against the entire "Nate must go", "The offense is stale" stuff.
     
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    Facts are not allowed in this thread!

    Repped...
     
  18. Todd

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    The real fact is how many layups, or points in the paint do we allow every game that end up getting us down by 20 in the first quarter. Our defense must be so stifling that even we can't move to defend the basket. Nate is supposed to be Mr. Defense, please tell us where it's at?

    Nate will never take this team to a championship, and you can take that to the bank!! :smiley-calista:
     
  19. andalusian

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    Before Oden went down - this team #2 in the entire league in defensive efficiency. I am not saying that Nate is the greatest or anything - but to blame him for a defensive rotation that features Howard or a just traded and with one practice Camby is just silly.

    Maybe you are right, hard to tell. But, Nate is a much better coach than people give him credit here. (Not a problem for him to get credit from his peers, it seems).
     
  20. Tince

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    We've been down 20 one time in the 1st quarter :cheers:
     

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