Fish or cut bait.

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  1. KingSpeed

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    BUT what about the origin of the injuries? He needed MF surgery because he hurt himself either playing Dance Dance Revolution, Getting Up Off His Couch, or both. That seems to suggest a fragility. And what about the most recent injury? He jumps, comes down, and that's it? Out for the season? No contact with any other player? What's to stop that from happening again?
     
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    your claim was that this was Bowie for Buck part two. Though it seems silly like most of your Greg bashing I'm able to determine who is your Sam here, but who your Buck Williams is truly baffles me. Who is the rugged multilple time All Star PF who fits this roster like pulling the last card an inside straight? This Buck Williams type is a mystery player/draft pick who you won't name???

    Thompson has had ample opportunity on the Kings to show what sort of a blah Big he is. We seem to have as different memories of Buck as we do of what constitutes a bonus.

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    nothing. Everyone's health hangs in a tenuous balance and no one's is guaranteed.

    I've asked several times for the posters who believe Oden is yet another Mr. Glass to compile a list of the many star type players who've had their careers derailed by broken bones and injuries that weren't thought to have serious longterm effects. I'll start it for you...
    1. Sam Bowie 2? 3? 4? 5?

    of course you won't come up with #2-5 because there are no other examples of this to site... which means it very rare/unlikely to apply to 22 year old GO or anyone. Siting the dumbest of internet rumors as the basis of today's :NOTMARIS: dance speaks for itself

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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Might wanna re-check your facts.
     
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    Fine, you win. There is no one in this year's draft worth going after.

    What's it matter anyway? As long as Nate is running his "10 points a quarter" offense, who the team puts on the court is pretty much irrelevant.
     
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    I would take Cousins over him any day of the week.
     
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    He had a broken wrist in college so injuries weren't just a concern there.

    I have seen people allude to injury problems Oden had in high school but there is never a single link to back up the claim. Everything I have read has said he had a minor surgery in Junior High then no injury troubles at all until college. If you have something different I would love to read it.
     
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    Basically in my experience players who tend to get hurt, tend to get hurt a lot, not matter if it is the same injury or not. It is this simple: Hurt a lot? Yes or No.
     
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    I think along the same lines. Looking to Oden's future health without visiting his past record is something that I can't do. I imagine it will take me years of watching a healthy Oden before I don't think that he could go down with an injury at any random moment.
     
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    I still think the same thing every time I watch Grant Hill or Zidrunas Ilgauskus play. They play now, but they don't play like they did back before all the injuries. But even today, I watch them play, and I expect them to go down with an injury.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I asked the same question last night and didn't get an answer.

    Oden's wrist injury caused him to miss ZERO high school games and SEVEN college games.

    Between his high school team and AAU ball, Oden was playing year round for four years with no significant injuries that caused him to miss games. Yet, the revisionist history is now that "there were injury concerns about him in high school". Well, there were no injuries. So, I'm not sure why anyone would be concerned.

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    I tore my anterior meniscus cartilage getting up off the ground. Sometimes your knee just moves in an odd way.

    As for his current injury, generally that's how the patella gets fractured. I know it sounds odd, but the quadriceps contract sending force through the quad tendon splitting the patella. A lot of times, the patella tendon will go too. That's what happened to Joel. No one touched him. Barkley's and Mutombo's career ended from their quad tendons going. No one touched them, they just jumped. Hell, Griffin broke his kneecap just from landing awkwardly; he didn't fall on it.

    I can't assuage your fears about GO getting injured again. That's up to you.
     
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    You saw Big Z play before the injuries? Dude was drafted with a broken foot (that I recall he'd rebroken) and missed his entire rookie season. Anyhoo, those two are 37 and 34 respectively... I'm guessing that might have something to do with them not playing like they did back in their day.
    yet they're playing at an age where most NBA players are retired. These guy are actually excellent counter examples to what you're trying to prove.

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    The reason why I go with Aldrich is because of basketball IQ and defense. Cousins also has some major red flags with some of his antics. He's a bit on the crazy side. But the guy is a serious baller. He's Al Jefferson at 6'11"

    [video=youtube;giSpA4HS-SM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giSpA4HS-SM[/video]
     
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    the injury happened in February during his Senior season in HS. The surgery happened in the summer (June) between HS and college.

    http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/540039.html

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    So he got hurt once in 4 years in High School? Hardly a history of injuries.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    And missed ZERO games because of it (other than the post season, Indiana-Kentucky All-Star game).

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    Grant Hill was an elite player before his injuries. He's a 15 PER player post-injuries. If Oden is going to be mediocre once he gets healthy, then it may be time to cut bait. Plus, Ilgauskas isn't really an inside player. His best offense is taking an open 15' set shot. He was never close to being the athlete that Oden is/was.
     

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