Jannero Pargo has a PER of 9.4 Out of guys who've played >1000 minutes, these are the worst, according to PER Code: Rk Player Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS FG% 3P% FT% 1 Terrence Williams 2009-10 22 NJN NBA 52 1030 8.0 .426 .395 2.3 20.3 10.8 17.3 1.6 0.3 16.7 20.5 83 110 -1.9 0.7 -1.2 .369 .305 .686 2 Rafer Alston 2009-10 33 TOT NBA 49 1366 8.2 .438 .406 1.0 9.8 5.3 20.6 1.9 0.5 16.5 18.9 88 109 -1.6 1.0 -0.6 .343 .338 .725 3 Keith Bogans 2009-10 29 SAS NBA 51 1026 8.4 .558 .533 2.0 13.5 7.8 8.6 1.6 0.4 15.1 11.0 108 106 0.6 1.2 1.8 .421 .373 .806 4 Charlie Bell 2009-10 30 MIL NBA 52 1374 8.7 .499 .480 1.8 7.3 4.4 9.9 1.3 0.7 9.6 14.6 103 107 0.5 1.4 1.9 .391 .391 .690 5 Derek Fisher 2009-10 35 LAL NBA 56 1518 9.1 .496 .446 1.3 8.0 4.7 12.9 2.2 0.3 13.1 13.9 103 104 0.6 2.1 2.7 .380 .345 .854 6 James Posey 2009-10 33 NOH NBA 53 1210 9.2 .526 .481 2.4 20.0 11.0 9.0 1.1 0.8 11.4 12.3 107 108 0.8 1.1 1.9 .369 .331 .839 7 Anthony Parker 2009-10 34 CLE NBA 56 1604 9.5 .581 .556 1.3 9.8 5.8 8.4 1.3 0.9 12.5 11.7 112 107 1.5 1.7 3.2 .437 .453 .766 8 Thabo Sefolosha 2009-10 25 OKC NBA 53 1558 9.5 .486 .464 3.5 16.0 10.0 9.0 2.3 1.7 17.4 11.2 97 101 -0.2 2.7 2.5 .416 .318 .661 9 Brandon Rush 2009-10 24 IND NBA 55 1580 9.6 .514 .506 1.9 13.6 7.7 6.6 1.2 1.9 11.4 14.6 97 107 -0.1 1.5 1.4 .419 .387 .600 10 Jared Jeffries 2009-10 28 NYK NBA 52 1462 9.8 .524 .487 7.5 9.8 8.6 8.0 1.9 3.0 18.6 10.3 107 109 0.8 1.1 1.9 .443 .323 .645 11 Chris Duhon 2009-10 27 NYK NBA 54 1771 10.1 .467 .436 1.3 8.1 4.6 26.5 1.5 0.1 17.8 13.5 103 113 0.8 0.6 1.3 .344 .322 .711 12 Devin Brown 2009-10 31 TOT NBA 47 1039 10.2 .501 .457 3.0 10.4 6.6 9.4 1.6 0.4 13.3 19.8 97 110 -0.1 0.7 0.6 .378 .352 .802 13 Juwan Howard 2009-10 36 POR NBA 49 1112 10.4 .557 .541 8.4 18.8 13.6 5.1 0.8 0.5 14.6 12.9 109 108 1.0 0.9 1.9 .541 .000 .742 14 Dahntay Jones 2009-10 29 IND NBA 54 1439 10.5 .517 .456 2.5 10.2 6.3 12.7 1.0 1.6 15.2 20.2 97 109 -0.2 1.2 1.0 .452 .143 .765 15 Mickael Pietrus 2009-10 27 ORL NBA 53 1247 10.7 .529 .513 2.4 11.8 7.2 5.0 1.7 1.1 10.4 17.4 102 104 0.4 1.7 2.2 .413 .348 .622 16 Earl Watson 2009-10 30 IND NBA 52 1448 10.8 .506 .453 2.7 9.7 6.1 24.6 2.0 0.6 21.5 15.0 100 108 0.2 1.4 1.5 .404 .275 .754
His PER is misleading as he's actually been a pretty big part of the Thunder's success. All they really need him to do his play defense on the opposing team's best perimeter threat and rebound, and he's been doing a decent job at it.
and in all fairness, Terrence Williams' team is bad no matter what. I have no idea how one can be "efficient" on that team.
I think he's been a pretty big part of their success because he happened to be there when Durant and Westbrook really broke out and they got Harden. Who, by the way, can also play good defense but can do about 100 other things that Thabo can't. Good teams need every good player they can get. I don't think any team should settle for a crummy player.
Having a PER of 9.4 doesn't mean he's a crummy player. Good teams know how to maximize the talents of their best players. Thabo allows the thunder more flexibility in their matchups. His low PER would only be a problem if he had a high usage, which he doesn't. His ORTG is 98, which isn't bad. His DRTG is 101, which is pretty good. You don't need 5 guys who can all create their own shot to win, and it's actually counter productive usually. There needs to be an established pecking order to be efficient and consistent and having a guy who doesn't need the ball much makes that a whole lot easier.
I agree with this basically. Bruce Bowen played heavy, heavy minutes with the Spurs and never cracked a 10 PER. That has still worked out well for Bowen and the Spurs. If PER is going to under-rate a guy, it's going to be someone that rarely shoots and is great on D.
11.5 puts you pretty bad. I agree PER doesn't tell the whole story, but if you look at Thabo, you've got a lot of other things going on too. Most obviously he turns the ball over a ton, whereas Bruce Bowen was one of the safest ball handlers in the league and a very respectable three point shooter. And Bowen was a historically good defender whereas I think Thabo is just a good defender.
He's also young and doesn't have a ton of experience yet. I think the TO's will go down or his minutes will.
It's also sort of interesting that if you look at Basketballvalue, which has APM calculations, he doesn't seem to be bringing a lot to the table. I'm iffy on APM, but it counts for something, especially at measuring defense, which is hard to capture otherwise. I guess I just don't see it.
