PGOTF (point guard of the future TM)

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/3/2/1332919/pg-paradise

    Some interesting names thrown around by Dave at Blazers edge about some point guards that theoretically could be on the radar of the team to fill the role of long run starter at the point (assuming Bayless doesn't work out, Koponen isn't an NBA player, Dre' doesn't play like this til he's 40, and Diener doesn't become Blake 2.0)

    I wrinkled my nose when I read this:

    Calderon aside, how funny would it be if the Blazers traded back for Jarret Jack? Supposedly he's actually looking like a passable point guard these days and I had no idea his season was going as well as it has been (almost reaching the 50/40/90 holy grail for guards)
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=2768

    I don't think it's going to happen, but what would you guys think of the prodigal son returning home?
     
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    i think harris would be a nice fit. he just hates playing there.
     
  3. BasX

    BasX I Win

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    Please take Jose.
     
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    LOL You must be a Raps fan - NO WAY JOSE!
     
  5. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

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    Conley would be the best fit.

    Like Batum, he's one of those guys that get pts just playing off of others. He's also pretty good at getting around his guy and getting in the lane, plus he's a good 3pt shooter as well.

    He'd be a great fit next to Roy. Still young at 22 so there's a chance he continues to improve.
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Point of the article: There's no quick fix out there. Best to develop what you have.
     
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  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, but Curry has already entrenched himself in GS as basically untouchable. He's not a realistic option, whereas Conley is (albeit not necessarily a great one).

    As for those PGs who might be legitimately available, whom would you advocate pursuing?
     
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    LittleAlex Well-Known Member

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    The comment about Jack means you can discount anything else actually said in the article. Jack has sucked, sucks now and will continue to suck far into the future.

    Nice guy, bad point guard.
     
  10. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Except he has been awesome for Toronto this year. Good fit.
     
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    We have only our speculation as to who is legitimately available :dunno: With the caps coming down there may be a ton of player movement this summer... guys who wouldn't land on our speculative lists may be legitimately on the block

    and if not, I'm interested in seeing Bayless mature and maybe bring Petteri over as both seem to have potential. I'm of the opinion that the grass is pretty green on this side of the fence already

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    Depends on what Pritchard wants for us in a point guard. If he wants a younger version of Andre Miller, then Bayless and Mills are not going to be the future. If he wants Roy to become more like LeBron and Kobe in terms of dominating the ball, then either of them could be the answer since they can relieve Roy of the ball and create their own shot, and Mills may even be quick enough to defend penetration by the Aaron Brooks of the world.

    Also, Jarrett Jack? This is a career year for him, and he's still an average PG in terms of his 15.2 PER, and he is certainly is not the answer on defense.
     
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    Two Words: Bull Shit.

    I have watched many Toronto games. Jarrett Jack is still Jarrett Jack that we all knew here. It's not like Toronto is kicking ass in the east of all places. The east.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    If you say so. Raptors fans are pretty happy with him.
     
  15. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    It's pretty clear who the SG, PF, SF and C "of the future" for the team is. So it's a reasonable question to ask it about PG. But maybe there really isn't any. Did the Lakers really have a "PG of the Future" in 1999? Not really. They sort of made do with Derek Fisher, and it worked out really well for them. The Spurs never really had a "SF of the future" or a "Complimentary Big Man to Duncan of the Future" (setting aside whether Duncan is a PF or C).

    Teams almost never sew up 5 starters for very extended periods. It's pretty rare to have three starters with tenure of more than a few years, let alone five.

    Look at our roster. Look at Roy's skill set. Look at the likely availability of high quality point guards out there. I put it all together and I don't really see "premier young point guard" in our future. I see us going with guys like Andre Miller (and maybe an older Chauncy Billups after Miller breaks down). Or maybe Bayless or Mills or Koponen is good enough.

    But I think it'll probably always be a position where we just sort of "get by" with stopgap solutions, and (hopefully) win titles by dominating at other positions.
     
  16. andalusian

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    JJ has been playing very nice this year, and a 15.2 PER is average starter - which is good for Toronto because he at least plays some defense (unlike Calderon who actually gives them a higher PER, but does not play defense at all). A 15.2 PER PG as a backup PG would be great for Portland, especially since he also plays some defense, but, let's face it, the Blazers already have a 15.5 PER backup PG in Bayless, and he tries to play defense as well.

    What we have is exactly what KP told us - JB is JJ on steroids. But, since JJ is so young and inexperienced, we do not see the consistency Jack has this year. The highs are higher, the lows are lower, but overall - JJ for JB would be about even swap this year, and I am willing to bet - a downgrade going forward, because once JB gets the consistency - he will just be a better player.

    Still glad for Jack - he is a favorite of mine because he is a nice player (if not great) and a great person. It is nice to see that he got into a system where he fits, people appreciate him and he is happy.
     
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    Miller does two things for us that few PG's can do- he dictates the tempo of the game, and he posts up other PG's well and can either score or pass out of it effectively.

    That to say I would prefer an veteran of at least 6 years rather than another young player still learning the NBA game.
     
  18. Blazer_Hippie

    Blazer_Hippie Batum getting ballsy!

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    Agreed. I'm very tired of watching young point guards try to develop here! I'd like a known quantity over potential at the point guard position.
     
  19. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    no way I refuse to leave Rubio out of it. Although the Blazers dont have much to get him here. As I would be looking to pair Rudy with him. hmmmm that leaves Bayless and Webster and $14,000,000 cash. What say you Minny?!?
     
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    Blazer_Hippie Batum getting ballsy!

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