Re: Hand the MVP to it's rightful owner Barbosa averaged 5 ppg in the three games that Phoenix lost, but he averaged close to 18 ppg in the four Phoenix victories (if my memory serves me correctly).
Re: Hand the MVP to it's rightful owner <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ May 6 2006, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What? Why did you bring Chris Bosh into this?I just decided to make this thread to shut all the Laker fans up.And Barbosa was sh*t in every game except 1 and 7. I know it was a joke but that is complete garbage. Nash is the one that pieced it together for hs Suns. Look at his series stats.Want me to bring out Barbosa's? *Cough 5 ppg Cough*</div>lol he brings Bosh into this, saying he's an All-Star (3rd year too, mind you) and he expects that to be some sort of insult? Bosh is amazing. But Barbosa also (along with games 1 and 7) had an excellent game 6. But on subject, it's hard to argue because Nash, Kobe, Dirk, Brand, LeBron, and Billups all deserved the MVP in their own ways. I love Nash and respect him, but I firmly believe he should not have won it this year. Last year was a draw too with Shaq (how can a man as dominant as he has been retire with only 1 MVP?). This year, I do believe it was Kobe.Why? Kobe lead a team of Lamar Odom (good player), Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Deaven George, Sasha Vujacic, etc. into the playoffs and forced a 7 game series with Phoenix! Honestly, that's amazing. Along with that, he had an icredible individual season. I mean 35 ppg, he scored 81, and he's still one of the top perimiter defenders on top of it all. Plus, like I said, he lead a piss-poor Lakers roster to the playoffs and forced a game 7, in the West! If Kobe Bryant retires without at least 1-2 MVP's, David Stern should be assassinated by a mobb of 8 Laker fans (yes, 8 lol).Hate Kobe all you want. Call him cocky or a rapist. The fact is, whether you like it or not, he's probably the best player in the NBA.
Re: Hand the MVP to it's rightful owner I don't like this argument because Nash and the Suns were the favorites coming into the series anyway. Yes, Nash played well today, but winning a series that was supposed to be their's (although the comeback from 1-3 was pretty awesome) isn't that great of "proof" of an MVP.
Re: Hand the MVP to it's rightful owner <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LameR @ May 7 2006, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like this argument because Nash and the Suns were the favorites coming into the series anyway. Yes, Nash played well today, but winning a series that was supposed to be their's (although the comeback from 1-3 was pretty awesome) isn't that great of "proof" of an MVP.</div>I don't know where you got the Suns being the favorites. Almost every analyst/expert was picking the Lakers to win the series before it even started.
Re: Hand the MVP to it's rightful owner <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ May 6 2006, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, it's too bad Steve Nash didn't make his teammates better in Dallas. Why the hell did he decide to starting doing this when he was 31 years old?</div>Yo BCB, do you have any new opinions to share with us or do you like being proven wrong by me everytime?Steve Nash in Dallas brought the ball upourt, where he passed off to Michael Finley or another player. From there, he would either cut to the rim or spread to a corner, where Dallas would look to get the ball to Dirk Nowitzki. If they were unable to do that, they would isolate Finley. If Finley was doubled, or simply wasn't shooting well, he would swing the ball. From here, the Mavs would look for Nash. He was their third option in half-court offenses, and in transition, he primarily looked to pass. And Steve Nash didn't make his teammates better in Dallas? You realize he did average a constant 7 + APG?In Phoenix, Steve Nash brings the ball up court, where he immediately goes into either a pick-and-roll or isolation situation. From here he looks to drive or pass to an open teammate. If his teammate can't shoot, they look for Marion, or kick back out to Nash, where it starts over. Touches = Production, simple as that. Michael Redd, Bobby Simmons, Chris Bosh, Flip Murray are jsut some of the many examples of this
Re: Hand the MVP to it's rightful owner Steve Nash may win the regular season MVP but you know who's winning the Finals MVP.
Re: Hand the MVP to it's rightful owner <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ May 7 2006, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yo BCB, do you have any new opinions to share with us or do you like being proven wrong by me everytime?Steve Nash in Dallas brought the ball upourt, where he passed off to Michael Finley or another player. From there, he would either cut to the rim or spread to a corner, where Dallas would look to get the ball to Dirk Nowitzki. If they were unable to do that, they would isolate Finley. If Finley was doubled, or simply wasn't shooting well, he would swing the ball. From here, the Mavs would look for Nash. He was their third option in half-court offenses, and in transition, he primarily looked to pass. And Steve Nash didn't make his teammates better in Dallas? You realize he did average a constant 7 + APG?In Phoenix, Steve Nash brings the ball up court, where he immediately goes into either a pick-and-roll or isolation situation. From here he looks to drive or pass to an open teammate. If his teammate can't shoot, they look for Marion, or kick back out to Nash, where it starts over. Touches = Production, simple as that. Michael Redd, Bobby Simmons, Chris Bosh, Flip Murray are jsut some of the many examples of this</div> I don't care, he's still not an MVP.
