Intelligent Design

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  1. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    The big bang is the best theory thousands of scientists spending a great deal of time and money researching the issue have come up with. Aspects of it are constantly being redefined and further explored.

    Intelligent Design is a political instrument invented to try to shoehorn creationism back into the public education system. It's not science, because it's not testable and it makes no predictions.

    "God did it" has been the answer for millenia for countless puzzles, from "why does the sun rise" to "what causes cancer?" Never has such a line of thinking done anything to create a better understanding of our universe or prevent suffering. Why people still cling to it when science has such an amazing track record of smacking it down astounds me.
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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  3. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I love that comic mook!
     
  4. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    But science is a bunch of flip floppers! when they get new evidence they change their minds!:NOTMARIS::NOTMARIS:
     
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    I know it was sarcasm. I just "know" that some idiot will look at that and actually believe that it is true............like the guy that made it. It's a sore spot with me as I have family members who drive me nuts with such drivel.:crazy:
     
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  7. TradeNurkicNow

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    At the juncture we are at, it is philosophical. We are no where near the point where science could "explain it all," so just positing that "it was all intelligently designed" has nothing to do with science.

    Even if the universe was intelligently designed, then so what? All that means is that everything science has recorded didn't happen by mere chance, but on purpose. Why can't the big bang and intelligent design coexist? Why can't macro-evolution and intelligent design coexist? Why can't intelligent design be responsible for every scientific consensus?

    It's pointless to even debate it.
     
  8. speeds

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    There is no debate.
     
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    For the folks who want to jam intelligent design into science education in public schools (and those who are trying to stop them,) there is a debate.
     
  10. mook

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    God ain't all bad, though. I think Patton Oswalt brings up a great point about the utility of religion. It's pretty funny, but it actually makes a ton of sense:

    [video=youtube;JmzeY65voe0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmzeY65voe0[/video]
     
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    [video=youtube;e4467CI4y0M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4467CI4y0M[/video]
     
  12. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Yeah but in reality there isn't. They are failing miserably for a reason.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Hoojacks, that is pretty sweet!
     
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    Evolution is a political instrument invented to undermine the idea of a God.

    Neither is the big bang.

    If God does exist, and He did create the world, then evolution has confused millions of people about the meaning of the universe.

    Why people cling to evolution, when there's no evidence for it, astounds me. It's only a theory, and a very flawed one at that.
     
  15. speeds

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    There is abundant evidence for it. Don't be obtuse.

    There is a practically complete fossil record for the horse from the time it was a Hyracotherium until now.
     
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    Nonsense. Scientists look for all kinds of "links," and when they can't find them, they make them up. It's like a lot of the "clinical studies" that are done by drug companies. They force the studies to come to the conclusions they want them to, no matter what the data shows. Same goes for the evolutionists. It's all theory, and if your a believer, then you believe it.
     
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    Shooter, you're talking about macro-evolution, not micro-evolution; right?
     
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    Either you have a poor understanding of what evolution means or is, or you are purposely ignoring many scientific discoveries for the sake of arguing.

    If you say there are no "links", how do you then explain the birds on the Galapagos Islands then?

    Like Darwin's finches (although they're not actually finches). They are birds who are of the same species having vastly different beaks, and certain features, on certain islands, survived while others didn't?

    http://dearkitty.blogsome.com/2006/08/03/galapagos-islands-why-darwins-finches-differ-in-beak-size/

    Why are some tortoises soft shelled while others are hard shelled? Why did some species of tortoises grow to significantly larger sizes than others?

    Let's say you have two sets of the same tortoise populations on two different islands. On one island, the food source is low. Those tortoises don't have to stretch their necks that far to get food.

    On the other island, the food source is higher up. So those tortoises who have longer necks (just by some genetic luck), will probably outlive the others. They'll be able to reach the food, and procreate. And their off spring will more than likely be able to reach the the food, and live to procreate.

    Those who can't reach the food, or struggle more, are less likely to procreate. Those who can reach the food, are more likely to survive and procreate.

    Then the off spring will tend to have longer necks. Give that a couple hundred years and over time the tortoises on the one Island will longer necks than those on the other island. They'll be the same species of tortoises, but will not resemble each other exactly the same anymore.

    That is evolution (and actually happened).

    I think the problem is that so many people think that evolution is something like man evolved from ape. That isn't what evolution is about.

    Hell, you want proof of evolution? Look at people. Why doesn't everyone look the same? Why are some people in certain areas of the region of a similar appearance. For example, why do Japanese, Korean, Chinese and other Asian nations, look somewhat similar?

    When you have people of different 'races' creating a new generation, that's evolving. That's evolution.
     
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    That's right. Everything is faked. The moon shot was a fake. Ronald Reagan never existed. There is no such place as South Africa. The fake tits in your avatar are real. This post doesn't exist. You don't exist.

    Just put your fingers in your ears, your head in the sand, and shout "I don't hear you, you don't exist". That'll work.

    barfo
     
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